Rat & Swan wrote:

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> Dutch wrote:
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>>>>> I am saying
>>>>> the punishment or lack thereof is irrelevant to the morality of
>>>>> the action which is, or is not, punished.
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>>>> On top of all your other errors, that's false.
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>>> Why? Are you saying that in a slave-holding society,
>>> slavery is moral?
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>> It's not relevent to this discussion whether or not animal cds is moral
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> It invalidates the claim that an action must be punished for
> it to be immoral.

Strawman: That was never anyone's claim.

> The punishment, or lack thereof, has NO relationship
> to the inherent morality of the act itself.

Prove it.

> There were societies which practiced slavery

You are a slaveholder who claims slavery is immoral.