if they stuggle they should give up.





besides there's some soy products out there which so far in the labels claim
to not have any animal product or biproduct of any type... most times i can
agree because i don't suffer the fires of gerd and make me miserable.

i can tell if it does... after i eat it and my stomach burns like hell i
check again... most times yes.. it'll have something like casein in it and i
missed that entirely.. just like with all that soy/vegan cheese.. yeh....
ok.

they really should make it clear on those packages.... say such as


"vegan burgers!" (then somewhere it should say) not a VEGAN product!


there.


"Jeßus" > wrote in message
...
> Jam Sandwich wrote:
>> Jeßus wrote:
>>> figsandolives wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> I'm hearing unfermented soy (e.g soy milk, tofu..) isn't good for you
>>>> because of it's phytic acid content and phytoestrogen messing up the
>>>> body's hormones (especially thyroid for women), and how it's been
>>>> actually overstated how much soy Asians traditionally ate - who tend to
>>>> eat more fermented soy e.g. miso, soy sauce (is this a food!?), etc..
>>>>
>>>> As far as my personal diet goes, I just enjoy soymilk and occasional
>>>> soy
>>>> cheeses. I rarely eat TVP products as I try to eat unprocessed as much
>>>> as possible (I have little desire to actually pretend eating meat)
>>>>
>>>> What is the truth here? I like my soymilk.
>>> IMHO, you've stated the truth already
>>>
>>> Enjoy it in moderation - just don't make soy the overwhelming component
>>> of your diet.
>>>
>>> I also couldn't agree more about TVP and other 'fake meat' products...
>>> if someone really needs to eat that crap - maybe they should just be
>>> honest with themselves and eat meat! I've never felt the urge to try to
>>> emulate animal products like that... I see no point in it.
>> be honest with themselves? I don't understand that..
>> I like some of the substitute meats, especially in burgers and sausages.
>> More variety on my plate. Lovely! After 30 years of being veggie I still
>> lust after my Mum's cottage pie but to eat it is a big no no.. so
>> anything that fulfills my dream without actually having real animal in
>> is fine with me.
>> maybe there's a difference in WHY some of us don't eat meat. Honestly!
>
> Quite true
> It's just that I frequently come across people who seem to struggle with
> abstaining from meat - but at the same time dislike TVP etc.
>
> But hey - if you really like the stuff, go for it by all means of course!
>
>