"Fredrick L. Rice" > wrote in message
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> Rat & Swan wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Susan Kennedy wrote:
> >
> >> "Rat & Swan" > wrote in message
> >
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> >>> Not keeping "pets" (or actually, companion animals) is a long-term
goal,
> >>> not anything that is going to happen any time soon. But this shows
the
> >>> poverty of imagination non-ARAs have: you can only imagine humans
> >>> interacting with animals in ways that dominate and control them. I
can
> >>> think of many ways to interact with animals on terms of mutual
freedom.
> >>> So can PETA (of which I am a long-term member, since 1984).
> >
> >
> >> Where, exactly, do you propose these domestic animals live, if not
> >> with us?
> >
> >
> > Where they please.
> >
> > Anytime AR people start talking about ending domestication of animals,
> > both as "pets" and as livestock, the kind of glib question you pose
> > here is the anti-AR retort.
>
> There's nothing glib about it, bitch, and you know it.
> In fact, the question absolutely ****S you.

Question: I'm not upset about it, and she said it to me. Why are you so
upset about it?

> >> And BTW, my cat is no more controlled than my children were. In fact,
she
> >> even comes and wants attention when I'm on the phone, rather like my 3
year
> >> old grandson.
> >
> >> In point of fact, by insisting that other people follow your beliefs,
> >> aren't *you* the ones who wants control?
> >
> >
> > I present my beliefs; I do believe they are correct
>
> Solipsistically.
>
> > and others should follow them,
>
> Of course! You are a fascist at heart.
>
> > but I do not impose them by force.
>
> Only because you don't have the means.
>
> You are a fascist at heart. When you try to impose
> your beliefs by force, as you necessarily must do, I
> will shoot you dead.
>