How can you prevent a farm animal? By eliminating farms or eliminating an
animal?

> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:14:48 +0000 (UTC), "Ray" >
wrote:
>
> > This months RSPCA Newsletter contains some info on battery eggs used in
> >supermarket products.
> > Perhaps e-mailing your supermarket may provoke some response.
> >
> >Legally there is no problem, but do fancy eating veggie products
containing
> >battery eggs?
> >
> >
> >1/ Battery eggs
> >2/ Hunting ban
> >3/ Primate research
> >
> >1/ BATTERY EGGS IN VEGGIE PRODUCTS
> >A new RSPCA survey has revealed that 80 per cent of supermarkets,
including
> >Asda, Sainsbury's and Tesco, use battery eggs in their own-brand products
> >labelled 'suitable for vegetarians'.
> >
> >The RSPCA believes this could come as a shock to the estimated four
million
> >vegetarians living in the UK - many will have chosen a vegetarian diet
> >because they do not want to eat foods derived from cruel farming methods.
> [...]
>
> Yeah, there ya go... If you veg*ns bought stuff like cage free eggs,
then
> you would be promoting that method. (I know there's a difference between
cage
> free and free range, and I believe both provide decent lives for the vast
majority
> of the birds.) It seems that at least half the stuff like vegetarian
chicken and other
> things besides tofu have egg whites in them, and of course those are from
> battery hens here in the US. I noticed it a couple of years ago, and have
been
> thinking ever since that it's too bad there isn't a significantly large
group of
> people who would like to provide decent lives for animals with their
diets. But
> there don't appear to be. In fact, from what I've seen in these news
groups
> there not only aren't people who want to do that, but everyone (to quote
the
> Gonad) on both sides is OPPOSED to seeing anyone want to do that...or at
> least opposed to suggesting people consider that alternative when
contemplating
> what they could do to achieve a more ethical lifestyle.
> And to make it even stranger, the people who pretend to be the most
ethically
> solid with their choice of diets (that means the veg*ns for the most
part), and who
> certainly appear to be most convinced that theirs' is the most ethically
solid (again
> that be the veg*ns for the most part), and who most pretend to be
interested in
> animals (...veg*ns...), are the same people who want to see future farm
animals
> prevented and NOT provided with better lives.
> So the people who pretend to want them to have better lives realy want
"them"
> to have none, and both they and the people who do want them to have lives
are
> opposed to other people trying to promote decent lives for them with their
diet.
> Both sides are on common ground there. So maybe someone from one or both
> sides can explain why you agree that it would be a bad thing if more (if
any!) people
> began trying to contribute to decent lives for food animals with their
diet?