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Jonathan Ball
 
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Default Facts we should *not* consider.

Rat & Swan wrote:

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> ipse dixit wrote:
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>> On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 10:14:10 -0700, Rat & Swan >
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>>> ipse dixit wrote:

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>>> <snip>

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>>>>>>>> Vegans advocate a responsible, compassionate lifestyle that does
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> include the intentional killing of animals for sustenance.

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>>> There is absolutely no question that this is true -- every single
>>> (ethical)vegan does so.

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>>> Antis may argue either that the vegan is deluded in his means to
>>> achieve this, or that he is deliberately hypocritical, but that
>>> is something entirely different -- and, of course, highly debatable.

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>>> However, there is no honest way to dispute that vegans ADVOCATE
>>> what ipse says they do.

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>>> <snip>

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>>>>>> No one believes all animal and human
>>>>>> life can be protected 100% in industry and agriculture.

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>>> This is also true -- or, to avoid a claim of mindreading on the
>>> pro-AR side, no one I have ever read has claimed that all
>>> human and animal life can be protected 100 per cent.

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>> Anthracosis has ruined the lives of thousands, yet no one in their
>> right mind would conclude that coal buyers are showing a contempt for
>> the rights of those suffering and dying from it.

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> Then none of the Antis who use the CD argument are in their
> right minds, because that is exactly the argument they use
> to claim ARAs are showing contempt for the rights of animals
> killed in veggie production.


It's not the same argument at all. It's a totally
specious comparison, as has been explained to you
dozens of times. It is a measure of your dishonesty
that you pretend not to see the massive, indisputable
moral distinction.