"Ray" > wrote in message ...
> "Ipse dixit" > wrote in message ...
> > "Ray" > wrote in message ...
> > > "Ipse dixit" > wrote in message ...
> > > > "Ray" > wrote in message ...
> > > > > "Ipse dixit" > wrote in message ...
> > > >
> > > > > > > > yeah yeah yeah.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Obviously Jon is another one to add to your 'Hypocrite List':-)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > Everyone is a potential candidate, Ray, but unlike you,
> > > > > > Jon's support for animals and his reasons for participating
> > > > > > here have never been in doubt. I bit his head off because
> > > > > > he stupidly took the emphasis away from a huge milestone
> > > > > > I spent a lot of time developing: getting Etter to make a
> > > > > > statement which would prove the CD argument has a
> > > > > > double standard.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > He should have picked another thread to post his views
> > > > > > on the ways to reduce the farmers CDs, or make another
> > > > > > one of his own rather than divert my attack on Rick away
> > > > > > with a bunch of crap on the issue which I already knew
> > > > > > about. That's why I asked, "Don't you get what's going on
> > > > > > here anymore, or something, Jon? What's the matter with
> > > > > > you?" He sometimes misses some of the more subtle
> > > > > > going's-on which are particular and unique to a.a.e.v. and
> > > > > > t.p.a.
> > > > > >-----------No snippage-----------
> > > > > >
> > > > > Derek,
> > > > > I hope you consider the following as constructive, it is
> > > > > meant that way.
> > > > >
> > > > > [Everyone is a potential candidate] A candidate for what
> > > > > Derek? Someone who does not share your views 100%
> > > > > and therefore has to be branded a hypocrite?
> > > > >
> > > > No, a candidate to be added to my list of who I
> > > > regard as hypocrites. There are many here who
> > > > I disagree with that aren't on that list. For example;
> > > >
> > > > "Murdering Mercer holds the principle that 1 rabbit
> > > > should die if it saves 1000 human lives, and this is
> > > > exactly the same principle held by Zakhar. The huge
> > > > difference between Zakhar and Mercer, is that
> > > > Mercer has put his principles into practice and
> > > > spent his entire life studying real damn hard to
> > > > perfect a way to do it as painlessly as possible,
> > > > using the least amount of animals. I don't agree
> > > > with Zakhar or Mercer's principles, but at least
> > > > Mercer has the guts to stand by his and argue his
> > > > position somewhat openly. I can cope with that,
> > > > but what annoys me more than anything is a
> > > > coward who would willingly allow animals to
> > > > die according to his own acceptable ratio while
> > > > criticising others who do it professionally,
> > > > especially if they're also claiming to be an ARA,
> > > > because it makes the rest of us who don't accept
> > > > any ratio at all equally hypocritical if we defend
> > > > his double standard as you do."
> > > > Derek 2003-10-08
> > > >
You never commented on this, blackmailer Ray.
I think you owe Mercer an apology since you
obviously support Zakhar's cost to benefit ratio,
because Mercer's ratio might even be more
acceptable to you than Zakhar's, making him "a
valuable defender of all animal rights issues" as
well. Haw haw.

> > > > > In recent weeks you have tried to go through us
> > > > > all like a dose of salts,
> > > >
> > > > So what? Unlike you, I'm free to take issue with
> > > > whoever I like, whatever their label. Deal with it.
> > >
> > > Right, I'll make a good start - **** you and all your
> > > stupid attempts to gain promininence on this Newsgroup.
> > > You have failed and you are a complete and utter disaster
> > > zone for AR posters.
> > >
> > Was that little outburst supposed to be "a good start" in
> > dealing with me?
>
> I don't have to deal with you any longer.

That right; you can cry off any time you like.

> Put your opinion to the vote:-)

What makes you think I'd pay any attention to
such a vote, even if it went in my favour?
> >
> > > Deal with that council house cleric.
> > >
> > > You ****ing mercer bumboy.
> >
> > It's Zakhar and yourself that supports Mercer's ethic
> > on using animals for research. Not me
>
> OK I'm game.

Drunk, more like, as usual.