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LordSnooty
 
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Default Facts we should *not* consider.

On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 20:56:41 GMT, wrote:

>On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 12:12:49 -0400, LordSnooty > wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 14:54:11 GMT, Jonathan Ball
> wrote:
>>
>>>brad beattie wrote:
>>>> ----- Message Text -----
>>>> |But you don't only eat carrots. You eat rice and
>>>> |cereal grains and all kinds of thing whose production
>>>> |and distribution causes the death of animals. You
>>>> |simply don't eat the animals that are killed. They are
>>>> |just as dead, irrespective of if you eat them.
>>>>
>>>> The processes that result in carrots and rice and so forth for us to
>>>> consume is not, by its nature, dependant upon the death of animals.
>>>
>>>Irrelevant. Animals die, and you buy the stuff whose
>>>production and distribution caused the death.

>>
>>This is fallacy of the kind usually supported by your less intelligent
>>friends like Clutch Wetter.

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>
>Facts that veg*ns want to disregard:
>
>6. Veg*ns contribute to most of the same animal deaths that everyone
> else does by their use of wood, paper, roads, buildings, electricity,
> things that contain animal by-products, and the veggies they eat.


Fallacy. All things meat eaters do, therefore by it's very nature a
vegan diet means the meat animals are taken out of the picture. Your
maths are very bad.

>7. Some types of meat involve fewer animal deaths than some types of
> veggies.


Fallacy.

>8. Some types of meat involve less animal suffering than some types of
> veggies.


Fallacy.