I have been making wine for your and until recently never had problems
lifting 23L carboys from floor to table for bottleing etc. Now I have
put my back out twice in the last year and have 4 23l carbouys on the
floor. I either need to be able to pump to higher elevation or as I
saw purely bt perchance a Brew on Premses location that looked to have
a simple hand powered sort of fork lift that appeared to be lifting a
carboy as high as 7 feet. Does anyone know where one would be able to
purchase one of these or have Ideas for other solutions. Or do I have
to stop making wine and sell my gear.

Thanks in Advance
Peter in Nova Scotia Canada

Do a search on this group - some months back (longer?), there was a
posting with a link to a design for a lifting mechanism using a car
jack (the floor kind) and some boards. Pretty nifty.

Peter:

1) Ask the BoP if they can get you one of those lifters.

2) Find a local store that deals with ABC Cork. They list a Carboy
Lift Single Crank (#19300), and Carboy Lift Double Crank (#19301).
Sorry no pictures that I could find on the internet, and the double
crank is almost twice the (wholesale) price.

Steve

On Tue, 16 May 2006 01:21:27 GMT, Peter
wrote:

I have been making wine for your and until recently never had problems
lifting 23L carboys from floor to table for bottleing etc. Now I have
put my back out twice in the last year and have 4 23l carbouys on the
floor. I either need to be able to pump to higher elevation or as I
saw purely bt perchance a Brew on Premses location that looked to have
a simple hand powered sort of fork lift that appeared to be lifting a
carboy as high as 7 feet. Does anyone know where one would be able to
purchase one of these or have Ideas for other solutions. Or do I have
to stop making wine and sell my gear.

Thanks in Advance
Peter in Nova Scotia Canada

Check the March 17th entry in Jack Keller's wine blog. His site is;
http://winemaking.jackkeller.net/index.asp

Bill Frazier
Olathe, Kansas USA

"Ric" wrote in message
oups.com...
Do a search on this group - some months back (longer?), there was a
posting with a link to a design for a lifting mechanism using a car
jack (the floor kind) and some boards. Pretty nifty.

an easier and cheaper method, recruit someone to do the lifting for
you. You could even compensate them with wine, I would love to lift
carboys for free wine (but I'm not in canada, sorry).
-tom "a college kid making wine" w

I love it!

Ha! Are you in North Carolina? snicker.
DAve

Tom wrote:
an easier and cheaper method, recruit someone to do the lifting for
you. You could even compensate them with wine, I would love to lift
carboys for free wine (but I'm not in canada, sorry).
-tom "a college kid making wine" w

Peter wrote:
I have been making wine for your and until recently never had problems
lifting 23L carboys from floor to table for bottleing etc. Now I have
put my back out twice in the last year and have 4 23l carbouys on the
floor. I either need to be able to pump to higher elevation or as I
saw purely bt perchance a Brew on Premses location that looked to have
a simple hand powered sort of fork lift that appeared to be lifting a
carboy as high as 7 feet. Does anyone know where one would be able to
purchase one of these or have Ideas for other solutions. Or do I have
to stop making wine and sell my gear.

Thanks in Advance
Peter in Nova Scotia Canada

Rather than lift the carboys , use a pump for racking. Winemaking
magazine had an article by a winemaker on a pump he was using. Part
numbers and construction details were included in the article. I
imagine the WineMaking website would have the article. It was at least
a year ago

Sal Coco
Kansas City Kansas

Could you use the same type of pump that people use to put plumbing
antifreeze in the water lines of an RV? Of course you would have to use it
only for your wine not for both!

Just a thought. I have absolutely no idea how these things works! I leave
that for the boys!!

Frances

in response to

Rather than lift the carboys , use a pump for racking. Winemaking
magazine had an article by a winemaker on a pump he was using. Part
numbers and construction details were included in the article. I
imagine the WineMaking website would have the article. It was at least
a year ago

Sal Coco
Kansas City Kansas

I racked a batch of Apple Wine yesterday using a pump from a Buon Vino
Super Jet Wine Filter.. That would be a rather expensive remedy but
it worked like a dream.

Later,
A. J.

On Thu, 18 May 2006 23:52:23 GMT, "Dave and Fran"
wrote:

Could you use the same type of pump that people use to put plumbing
antifreeze in the water lines of an RV? Of course you would have to use it
only for your wine not for both!

Just a thought. I have absolutely no idea how these things works! I leave
that for the boys!!

Frances

in response to

Rather than lift the carboys , use a pump for racking. Winemaking
magazine had an article by a winemaker on a pump he was using. Part
numbers and construction details were included in the article. I
imagine the WineMaking website would have the article. It was at least
a year ago

Sal Coco
Kansas City Kansas

I use a 12v pump meant for potable water in RV's. Works great. I use a
battery charger that has multiple setting from 12v - 6v and multiple
amperage. Allows for adjusting speed.

Make sure it's a diaphragm pump. Much more gentel on the wine. Also
helps getting the CO2 out.


Dave and Fran wrote:
Could you use the same type of pump that people use to put plumbing
antifreeze in the water lines of an RV? Of course you would have to use it
only for your wine not for both!

Just a thought. I have absolutely no idea how these things works! I leave
that for the boys!!

Frances

in response to

Rather than lift the carboys , use a pump for racking. Winemaking
magazine had an article by a winemaker on a pump he was using. Part
numbers and construction details were included in the article. I
imagine the WineMaking website would have the article. It was at least
a year ago

Sal Coco
Kansas City Kansas

I have been making wine for your and until recently never had problems
lifting 23L carboys from floor to table for bottleing etc. Now I have
put my back out twice in the last year and have 4 23l carbouys on the
floor. I either need to be able to pump to higher elevation or as I
saw purely bt perchance a Brew on Premses location that looked to have
a simple hand powered sort of fork lift that appeared to be lifting a
carboy as high as 7 feet. Does anyone know where one would be able to
purchase one of these or have Ideas for other solutions. Or do I have
to stop making wine and sell my gear.

http://www.just****engoogleit.com/

There have been a lot of good ideas posted recently and in the past.
If you have space, a automotive engine hoise will be the most
economical as far as hydraulics go at around 100-150 bucks. As for
pumps, I always reccomend using a vacumn displacement system. You seal
the recieving carboy off and use a pump to evacuate that carboy, then
there is a line that runs to the transfer carboy to the recieving
carboy.
The reason I say that is it can be difficult to find an economical food
grade liquid pump. the above setup can be done with a 20 dollar venturi
device found at www.wortwizard.com. the only change is that you will
want to run the line into the recieving carboy form the transfer carboy
all the way to the bottom of the recieving carboy to prevent splashing.
I think it only costs about 20 bucks.




Peter wrote:
I have been making wine for your and until recently never had problems
lifting 23L carboys from floor to table for bottleing etc. Now I have
put my back out twice in the last year and have 4 23l carbouys on the
floor. I either need to be able to pump to higher elevation or as I
saw purely bt perchance a Brew on Premses location that looked to have
a simple hand powered sort of fork lift that appeared to be lifting a
carboy as high as 7 feet. Does anyone know where one would be able to
purchase one of these or have Ideas for other solutions. Or do I have
to stop making wine and sell my gear.

Thanks in Advance
Peter in Nova Scotia Canada

As stated the wortwizard
Appears to be the answer. However, I am not too comfortable using a garden
hose or its equivalent to activate the out flow.
Nevertheless, I might experiment with the wortwizard.
Conversely, the mini pump driven by a 1/4 or 3/8 drill may foot the bill.
Once the pump is well sterilized before and after use, it may not
contaminate the wine of beer? Some of these pump do come with a stainless
steel shaft and normally the impeller is made of plastic. What do you
think.

"Droopy" wrote in message
ups.com...
There have been a lot of good ideas posted recently and in the past.
If you have space, a automotive engine hoise will be the most
economical as far as hydraulics go at around 100-150 bucks. As for
pumps, I always reccomend using a vacumn displacement system. You seal
the recieving carboy off and use a pump to evacuate that carboy, then
there is a line that runs to the transfer carboy to the recieving
carboy.
The reason I say that is it can be difficult to find an economical food
grade liquid pump. the above setup can be done with a 20 dollar venturi
device found at www.wortwizard.com. the only change is that you will
want to run the line into the recieving carboy form the transfer carboy
all the way to the bottom of the recieving carboy to prevent splashing.
I think it only costs about 20 bucks.




Peter wrote:
I have been making wine for your and until recently never had problems
lifting 23L carboys from floor to table for bottleing etc. Now I have
put my back out twice in the last year and have 4 23l carbouys on the
floor. I either need to be able to pump to higher elevation or as I
saw purely bt perchance a Brew on Premses location that looked to have
a simple hand powered sort of fork lift that appeared to be lifting a
carboy as high as 7 feet. Does anyone know where one would be able to
purchase one of these or have Ideas for other solutions. Or do I have
to stop making wine and sell my gear.

Thanks in Advance
Peter in Nova Scotia Canada

Peter wrote:

I have been making wine for your and until recently never had problems
lifting 23L carboys from floor to table for bottleing etc. Now I have
put my back out twice in the last year and have 4 23l carbouys on the
floor. I either need to be able to pump to higher elevation or as I
saw purely bt perchance a Brew on Premses location that looked to have
a simple hand powered sort of fork lift that appeared to be lifting a
carboy as high as 7 feet. Does anyone know where one would be able to
purchase one of these or have Ideas for other solutions. Or do I have
to stop making wine and sell my gear.

http://winemaking.jackkeller.net/wineblognew.asp is the URL
for Jack Keller's Wine Blog. Search down for March 17th, 2005.
There he discusses the Carboy Lifter Martin Benke invented for
Jack. There are pictures and the pictures are accurate. I can
say this because I purchased one. I have two slugs of plaster
in my back holding up two compressed vertebrae and am still
recovering from shoulder surgery to repair a torn labrum. I
paid Martin $230 for it and I wouldn't go without it for one
day. It is an awesome device and is a steel at the price!

Martin is not in mass production. I ordered mine in February
and Martin says I have #7.

I have found only one problem using it. It's legs must be able
to slide under whatever surface onto which you want to load the
carboy. Otherwise you have to move the carboy from the lifter
to the surface. This means I need to raise my fermentation
fridge off the floor.

As Jack notes in his blog, Martin Benke can be reached at
L & M General Store, 7800 FM 471 South, Castroville, Texas 78009,
(210) 854-2178 or at home at (830) 538-6492. And I add that
Martin's e-mail address is .

An extremely happy customer,

Dick