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Old 07-07-2005, 01:32 PM
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Can next years fruiting cane be one of this years fruiting shoots?

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Old 07-07-2005, 01:53 PM
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Absolutely. In fact, you could say that it kinda has to be, in most cases.
In most varieties, older wood doesn't produce fruiting canes, 'though there
are exceptions.

Each node on this year's fruiting cane will give rise to a fruiting cane
next year. That's why there are so many pruning schemes like cordon & spur,
or cane & renewal spur. Otherwise the fruiting wood is too far out from the
trunk.

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Old 07-07-2005, 11:23 PM
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that confirms what I'm experiencing this year then: fruiting canes that were
last years fruiting shoots. In the mean time I've been growing specific
non-fruting shoots this year--from the lower trunk--for next years fruiting
cane. but it's not growing as vigorously as I hoped, probably because most
of the nutrient is going into the fruit above, and because it is in the
lower canopy with less sun, etc. In this case then, I may hack off the lower
shoot--which is probably a nutrient sink--and refocus on another healthier
shoot as next years fruting cane(s).

sound about right?

Jeff



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Absolutely. In fact, you could say that it kinda has to be, in most cases.
In most varieties, older wood doesn't produce fruiting canes, 'though
there
are exceptions.

Each node on this year's fruiting cane will give rise to a fruiting cane
next year. That's why there are so many pruning schemes like cordon &
spur,
or cane & renewal spur. Otherwise the fruiting wood is too far out from
the
trunk.

HTH

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Old 07-07-2005, 11:38 PM
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Depending on your pruning (trellising) method, you probably want the
upper canes anyway. Exceptions would be if you have a need to replace
the trunk, or are in a climate that makes it likely that the trunk will
be damaged a certain percentage of years.

Be sure to get next years fruiting cane up in the sunlight this year,
because this is necessary for it to develop the fruiting buds for next
year. It also needs growing time to harden off so it can survive the winter.

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