My local supplier only sells Vintners Reserve kits. While I have had good
results with them, I want to try something different. I found a site with
kits from a company called Cellar Classic. Anybody heard of them? They
are kind of pricey, almost twice as much as the Vintners Reserve. I am
looking at making a cabernet, and their kit is $104.99. Or is there
another kit that will produce a decent cabernet?

Thanks,
Craig

Craig

My price list from Delta BC lists this wine at $84.99. Where are you buying?

Craig

My price list from Delta BC lists this wine at $84.99. Where are you buying?

I have made a number of Cellar Classic kits. The white have come out very
nice. I particularly like the Gewürztraminer and have made it several
times. But I agree with Kevin, $80-85. I have not made one in about a
year. I hope they have not gone up that much!

Ray

"Kevin" wrote in message
om...
Craig

My price list from Delta BC lists this wine at $84.99. Where are you
buying?

I have made a number of Cellar Classic kits. The white have come out very
nice. I particularly like the Gewürztraminer and have made it several
times. But I agree with Kevin, $80-85. I have not made one in about a
year. I hope they have not gone up that much!

Ray

"Kevin" wrote in message
om...
Craig

My price list from Delta BC lists this wine at $84.99. Where are you
buying?

I have made a number of Cellar Classic kits. The white have come out very
nice. I particularly like the Gewürztraminer and have made it several
times. But I agree with Kevin, $80-85. I have not made one in about a
year. I hope they have not gone up that much!

Ray

"Kevin" wrote in message
om...
Craig

My price list from Delta BC lists this wine at $84.99. Where are you
buying?

Both Vintners Reserve and Cellar Classic are made by R.J.Spagnols, see
their website: http://www.rjspagnols.com
Surely your local supplier can have them since it comes from the same
place.

I tried a couple of Cellar Classic and they are great kits.
Personnaly, I prefer their Cru Select kits, which are a bit more
expensive. The more you pay, the more it tastes like the real thing. I
think you won't be dissapointed.



Craig wrote in message
My local supplier only sells Vintners Reserve kits. While I have had
good
results with them, I want to try something different. I found a site with
kits from a company called Cellar Classic. Anybody heard of them? They
are kind of pricey, almost twice as much as the Vintners Reserve. I am
looking at making a cabernet, and their kit is $104.99. Or is there
another kit that will produce a decent cabernet?

Thanks,
Craig

Both Vintners Reserve and Cellar Classic are made by R.J.Spagnols, see
their website: http://www.rjspagnols.com
Surely your local supplier can have them since it comes from the same
place.

I tried a couple of Cellar Classic and they are great kits.
Personnaly, I prefer their Cru Select kits, which are a bit more
expensive. The more you pay, the more it tastes like the real thing. I
think you won't be dissapointed.



Craig wrote in message
My local supplier only sells Vintners Reserve kits. While I have had
good
results with them, I want to try something different. I found a site with
kits from a company called Cellar Classic. Anybody heard of them? They
are kind of pricey, almost twice as much as the Vintners Reserve. I am
looking at making a cabernet, and their kit is $104.99. Or is there
another kit that will produce a decent cabernet?

Thanks,
Craig

Willie -
I think you're a brick shy of a load. Cellar Classic kits are
produced by RJ Spagnols, as indicated on their website. These are
upscale, 15L ("6-week") kits from RJ Spagnols. The Vintners Reserve
series are the lower-priced ("4-week") kits made by WinExpert, formerly
Brew King.

Craig -
If your supplier carries the Vintners Reserve kits, they already
have some sort of relationship (direct or indirect) with WinExpert. If
you are looking for a better kit, see if they can order one of the
better WinExpert kits (the Selection series, or even better, the
Selection Estate series). Where I live (Minnesota) you can buy most
of the VR kits for $45 to $50 US, while the Selection Original series
tend to run about $70 to $80 US, and the Selection Estate kits are $100
or more (but worth it!). So your Cellar Classic kit price is probably
in line with comparable WinExpert kits.

I have not made it, but I have heard a lot of very positive reports
about the Selection Estate Woodbridge Ranch 11 Cab. Sauv. kit. Also,
FWIW, bear in mind that even the inexpensive kits will improve quite a
bit with time. I opened a 2 1/2 year-old VR Chianti just yesterday,
and was amazed at how much it had improved from when it was 6 or 12
months old. I usually don't age the VR kits that long, but somehow I
overlooked that bottle.

Doug

Willie -
I think you're a brick shy of a load. Cellar Classic kits are
produced by RJ Spagnols, as indicated on their website. These are
upscale, 15L ("6-week") kits from RJ Spagnols. The Vintners Reserve
series are the lower-priced ("4-week") kits made by WinExpert, formerly
Brew King.

Craig -
If your supplier carries the Vintners Reserve kits, they already
have some sort of relationship (direct or indirect) with WinExpert. If
you are looking for a better kit, see if they can order one of the
better WinExpert kits (the Selection series, or even better, the
Selection Estate series). Where I live (Minnesota) you can buy most
of the VR kits for $45 to $50 US, while the Selection Original series
tend to run about $70 to $80 US, and the Selection Estate kits are $100
or more (but worth it!). So your Cellar Classic kit price is probably
in line with comparable WinExpert kits.

I have not made it, but I have heard a lot of very positive reports
about the Selection Estate Woodbridge Ranch 11 Cab. Sauv. kit. Also,
FWIW, bear in mind that even the inexpensive kits will improve quite a
bit with time. I opened a 2 1/2 year-old VR Chianti just yesterday,
and was amazed at how much it had improved from when it was 6 or 12
months old. I usually don't age the VR kits that long, but somehow I
overlooked that bottle.

Doug

(Kevin) wrote in
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Craig

My price list from Delta BC lists this wine at $84.99. Where are you
buying?

So far I just found one website (I think it was beer-wine.com, but I may be
wrong, the URL is on my PC at work) that was selling that kit, I have yet
to look deeper for other kits or even checking out other brewshops that are
in some of the farther suburbs around here.

Craig

(Kevin) wrote in
om:

Craig

My price list from Delta BC lists this wine at $84.99. Where are you
buying?

So far I just found one website (I think it was beer-wine.com, but I may be
wrong, the URL is on my PC at work) that was selling that kit, I have yet
to look deeper for other kits or even checking out other brewshops that are
in some of the farther suburbs around here.

Craig

(Willie) wrote in
om:

Both Vintners Reserve and Cellar Classic are made by R.J.Spagnols, see
their website: http://www.rjspagnols.com
Surely your local supplier can have them since it comes from the same
place.

I tried a couple of Cellar Classic and they are great kits.
Personnaly, I prefer their Cru Select kits, which are a bit more
expensive. The more you pay, the more it tastes like the real thing. I
think you won't be dissapointed.

If my local supplier cannot get these kits, do you know of a good online
source in the US? I looked at the Cru Select kits, and they do look rather
interesting.

Craig

(Willie) wrote in
om:

Both Vintners Reserve and Cellar Classic are made by R.J.Spagnols, see
their website: http://www.rjspagnols.com
Surely your local supplier can have them since it comes from the same
place.

I tried a couple of Cellar Classic and they are great kits.
Personnaly, I prefer their Cru Select kits, which are a bit more
expensive. The more you pay, the more it tastes like the real thing. I
think you won't be dissapointed.

If my local supplier cannot get these kits, do you know of a good online
source in the US? I looked at the Cru Select kits, and they do look rather
interesting.

Craig

"Doug" wrote in news:1112908783.790033.71150
@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

Craig -
If your supplier carries the Vintners Reserve kits, they already
have some sort of relationship (direct or indirect) with WinExpert. If
you are looking for a better kit, see if they can order one of the
better WinExpert kits (the Selection series, or even better, the
Selection Estate series). Where I live (Minnesota) you can buy most
of the VR kits for $45 to $50 US, while the Selection Original series
tend to run about $70 to $80 US, and the Selection Estate kits are $100
or more (but worth it!). So your Cellar Classic kit price is probably
in line with comparable WinExpert kits.

I have not made it, but I have heard a lot of very positive reports
about the Selection Estate Woodbridge Ranch 11 Cab. Sauv. kit. Also,
FWIW, bear in mind that even the inexpensive kits will improve quite a
bit with time. I opened a 2 1/2 year-old VR Chianti just yesterday,
and was amazed at how much it had improved from when it was 6 or 12
months old. I usually don't age the VR kits that long, but somehow I
overlooked that bottle.

Doug

Thanks Doug, I have seen some of the Estate kits on an online supplier
(midwestsupplies.com) that I sometimes buy beer ingredients from that I
cannot get at my local supplier. If my local cannot get these, then I'll
research that kit, as cab. sauvs. are my most requested wine from family
and friends.

Craig