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Frozen must question



 
 
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Old 01-04-2005, 05:38 PM
Jim
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I have just taken delivery of a drum of frozen must weighting 384 lbs.
It is going to take a few days to thaw out and my question is "will it
all fit into one 45-gallon primary fermenter and allow enough room for
punching down the cap and expansion or should I scramble to borrow a
second vessel?"
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Old 01-04-2005, 05:50 PM
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Get a second vessel. A 5g pail of frozen must weighs about 45lbs, so
I'd guess you have 40+ gallons of must. This is too much to expect to
ferment in a 45g primary. I fill my primaries to no more than 70% of
capacity to allow for expansion.
RD

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Old 01-04-2005, 05:50 PM
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Get a second vessel. A 5g pail of frozen must weighs about 45lbs, so
I'd guess you have 40+ gallons of must. This is too much to expect to
ferment in a 45g primary. I fill my primaries to no more than 70% of
capacity to allow for expansion.
RD

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Old 01-04-2005, 06:08 PM
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Thank you for the advice.
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Old 01-04-2005, 06:08 PM
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Thank you for the advice.
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Old 01-04-2005, 06:11 PM
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Easy way to remember - "a pint's a pound, the world around". So you
have about 48 gallons of must (assuming the 384 doesn't include the
shipping container - if it does, subtract it out of the weight, and
divide by 8 for the number of gallons.

Rob

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Old 01-04-2005, 06:11 PM
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Easy way to remember - "a pint's a pound, the world around". So you
have about 48 gallons of must (assuming the 384 doesn't include the
shipping container - if it does, subtract it out of the weight, and
divide by 8 for the number of gallons.

Rob

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Old 01-04-2005, 06:42 PM
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I love that little saying "a pint's a pound the world around."

On 1 Apr 2005 09:11:16 -0800, "Rob"
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Easy way to remember - "a pint's a pound, the world around". So you
have about 48 gallons of must (assuming the 384 doesn't include the
shipping container - if it does, subtract it out of the weight, and
divide by 8 for the number of gallons.

Rob


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Old 02-04-2005, 04:30 AM
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I have just taken delivery of a drum of frozen must weighting 384 lbs.
It is going to take a few days to thaw out and my question is "will it
all fit into one 45-gallon primary fermenter and allow enough room for
punching down the cap and expansion or should I scramble to borrow a
second vessel?"


Didn't it come in a 55 gallon drum? Just ferment it in that.

Tom S


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Old 02-04-2005, 04:30 AM
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"Jim" wrote in message
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I have just taken delivery of a drum of frozen must weighting 384 lbs.
It is going to take a few days to thaw out and my question is "will it
all fit into one 45-gallon primary fermenter and allow enough room for
punching down the cap and expansion or should I scramble to borrow a
second vessel?"


Didn't it come in a 55 gallon drum? Just ferment it in that.

Tom S


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Old 02-04-2005, 06:06 AM
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It came in a 45 gallon drum in a large plastic bag and I assumed that
I should remove it from the bag and pute it into a 45 gallon plastic
fermenter.

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Old 02-04-2005, 08:49 AM
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"a pint's a pound, the world around".

Hate to have to correct you but that just isn't so!!!!!! It might be in the
US but not "the world around" -- thank goodness!

1 pint (imp) = 20 fl ozs= 1 1/4 lbs

In imperial measures it is easier to remember that a gallon (imp) of water =
10 lbs

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Old 02-04-2005, 02:10 PM
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I knew that was coming, it's not so in Canada, either...

Joe


Hate to have to correct you but that just isn't so!!!!!! It might be

in the
US but not "the world around" -- thank goodness!

1 pint (imp) = 20 fl ozs= 1 1/4 lbs

In imperial measures it is easier to remember that a gallon (imp) of

water =
10 lbs

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In South Yorkshire, England
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Old 02-04-2005, 02:53 PM
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Jim wrote:

I have just taken delivery of a drum of frozen must weighting 384 lbs.
It is going to take a few days to thaw out and my question is "will it
all fit into one 45-gallon primary fermenter and allow enough room for
punching down the cap and expansion or should I scramble to borrow a
second vessel?"


I have found that 100 pounds of crushed grapes are about the right amount
for a 15 gallon fermentation vessel. So, a 45 gallon vessel may not give
you enough room for 384 pounds of must.
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Old 02-04-2005, 04:31 PM
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Once again thank you for the information.
 




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