A Food and drink forum. FoodBanter.com

Welcome to FoodBanter.com forums which provide access to the finest food and drink related newsgroups.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most newsgroup discussions and access our other FREE features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics to the food related newsgroups, communicate privately with other FoodBanter.com members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own photos and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact support.

Go Back   Home » FoodBanter.com forum » Drinking » Winemaking
Site Map Home Register Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

Winemaking (rec.crafts.winemaking) Discussion of the process, recipes, tips, techniques and general exchange of lore on the process, methods and history of wine making. Includes traditional grape wines, sparkling wines & champagnes.

Cranberry will not start



 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 22-03-2005, 05:06 PM
Mike
Usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Cranberry will not start

I have a Cranberry that will not start fermenting. Any ideas? I am using
RC212 and I have added yeast energizer.

The PH is 2.68
The temp is 69F


  #2 (permalink)  
Old 22-03-2005, 10:34 PM
Ray Calvert
Usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

What was your source of cranberry? Fresh or what? Any chance there were
any preservatives? That is a very low pH. It might be a problem but I can
not say for sure.
"Mike" wrote in message news:cgY%d.303$Mt5.55@fed1read01...
I have a Cranberry that will not start fermenting. Any ideas? I am using
RC212 and I have added yeast energizer.

The PH is 2.68
The temp is 69F



  #3 (permalink)  
Old 22-03-2005, 11:25 PM
Mike
Usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

They were dried and from a farmers market. They were supposed to be free of
any preservatives, they did have a light oil coating on them that was
supposed to be organic.


What was your source of cranberry? Fresh or what? Any chance there were
any preservatives? That is a very low pH. It might be a problem but I
can not say for sure.
"Mike" wrote in message
news:cgY%d.303$Mt5.55@fed1read01...
I have a Cranberry that will not start fermenting. Any ideas? I am using
RC212 and I have added yeast energizer.

The PH is 2.68
The temp is 69F





  #4 (permalink)  
Old 23-03-2005, 03:41 AM
William Frazier
Usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Mike wrote "I have a Cranberry that will not start fermenting. Any ideas? I
am using
RC212 and I have added yeast energizer.The PH is 2.68, The temp is 69F"

Mike - I made Cranberry wine from grocery store berries...not the dried
ones. The starting numbers were 3.2 brix (not much sugar), pH 2.68 and TA
1.00%. I added sugar to 18 brix and the must was still very tart. So, I
added K bicarbonate to pH 3.2 and then added active yeast. I tried to
ferment at 50F but no luck. Warmed to about 65F and it took off.

Your temperature of 68F is OK. I believe it's the low pH. Did you start
your yeast before adding to the must? If not start some more yeast per
package instructions just to be sure it's alive. Then if still no activity
raise the pH with some K bicarbonate.

Bill Frazier
Olathe, Kansas


  #5 (permalink)  
Old 23-03-2005, 04:11 PM
Ray Calvert
Usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

I have never used dried berries, only fresh and they ferment just fine. I
have always heard that you really have to be careful with dried because of
preservatives and that would be a concern of mine if these were not
fermenting. They may have been mislabeled. Of course the yeast may have
been bad as well. Did you make a starter? Normally not necessary but it
proves whether the yeast is good.

Ray

"Mike" wrote in message
news:ZP10e.350$Mt5.271@fed1read01...
They were dried and from a farmers market. They were supposed to be free
of any preservatives, they did have a light oil coating on them that was
supposed to be organic.


What was your source of cranberry? Fresh or what? Any chance there were
any preservatives? That is a very low pH. It might be a problem but I
can not say for sure.
"Mike" wrote in message
news:cgY%d.303$Mt5.55@fed1read01...
I have a Cranberry that will not start fermenting. Any ideas? I am using
RC212 and I have added yeast energizer.

The PH is 2.68
The temp is 69F







  #6 (permalink)  
Old 23-03-2005, 04:11 PM
Ray Calvert
Usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

I have never used dried berries, only fresh and they ferment just fine. I
have always heard that you really have to be careful with dried because of
preservatives and that would be a concern of mine if these were not
fermenting. They may have been mislabeled. Of course the yeast may have
been bad as well. Did you make a starter? Normally not necessary but it
proves whether the yeast is good.

Ray

"Mike" wrote in message
news:ZP10e.350$Mt5.271@fed1read01...
They were dried and from a farmers market. They were supposed to be free
of any preservatives, they did have a light oil coating on them that was
supposed to be organic.


What was your source of cranberry? Fresh or what? Any chance there were
any preservatives? That is a very low pH. It might be a problem but I
can not say for sure.
"Mike" wrote in message
news:cgY%d.303$Mt5.55@fed1read01...
I have a Cranberry that will not start fermenting. Any ideas? I am using
RC212 and I have added yeast energizer.

The PH is 2.68
The temp is 69F







  #7 (permalink)  
Old 23-03-2005, 04:47 PM
Bob
Usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default


"Mike" wrote in message news:cgY%d.303$Mt5.55@fed1read01...
I have a Cranberry that will not start fermenting. Any ideas? I am using
RC212 and I have added yeast energizer.

The PH is 2.68
The temp is 69F

That ph is =extremely= low. IIRC, a ph of 2 is ten times as acidic as a
ph of 3.
In the past I have just added a couple stixcks of chalk to a mix that
came out w/a low ph. It foams like crazy as it dissolves and then a new pack
of yeast makes it ferment like wild!


  #8 (permalink)  
Old 23-03-2005, 04:51 PM
Bob
Usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default


"Mike" wrote in message news:cgY%d.303$Mt5.55@fed1read01...
I have a Cranberry that will not start fermenting. Any ideas? I am using
RC212 and I have added yeast energizer.

The PH is 2.68
The temp is 69F

What was your PA?


  #9 (permalink)  
Old 23-03-2005, 10:40 PM
Mike
Usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

I assume you mean potential alcohol. The sg is 1.07 it atarted at about
1.08 a month ago.


What was your PA?




  #10 (permalink)  
Old 23-03-2005, 11:11 PM
Mike
Usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default

I have some calcium carbonate. How much should I throw in? It is a 3
gallon batch. The container says 5/8 tsp per gallon. I assume it means a
little over a half a tsp not 5 to 8 tsps per gallon.


That ph is =extremely= low. IIRC, a ph of 2 is ten times as acidic as a
ph of 3.
In the past I have just added a couple stixcks of chalk to a mix that
came out w/a low ph. It foams like crazy as it dissolves and then a new
pack
of yeast makes it ferment like wild!




  #11 (permalink)  
Old 24-03-2005, 01:18 AM
Bob
Usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default


"Mike" wrote in message news:Cfm0e.590$Mt5.88@fed1read01...
I assume you mean potential alcohol. The sg is 1.07 it atarted at about
1.08 a month ago.


What was your PA?


Go to a craft store and buy pure white chalk, throw three sticks in and
another batch of yeast the next day. It will take off, I guarantee.


  #12 (permalink)  
Old 24-03-2005, 01:19 AM
Bob
Usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default


"Mike" wrote in message
news:xIm0e.592$Mt5.468@fed1read01...
I have some calcium carbonate. How much should I throw in? It is a 3
gallon batch. The container says 5/8 tsp per gallon. I assume it means a
little over a half a tsp not 5 to 8 tsps per gallon.

Calcium carbonate is chalk. Add one TBS, wait a day or so, and pitch
another yeast into it. You should be in for a pleasant surprize.

That ph is =extremely= low. IIRC, a ph of 2 is ten times as acidic as

a
ph of 3.
In the past I have just added a couple stixcks of chalk to a mix that
came out w/a low ph. It foams like crazy as it dissolves and then a new
pack
of yeast makes it ferment like wild!






 




Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Cranberry slow start Mike Winemaking 0 13-01-2005 03:49 PM
Cranberry slow start Mike Winemaking 0 13-01-2005 03:49 PM
Cranberry slow start Mike Winemaking 0 13-01-2005 03:49 PM
Dried Cranberry Bread (4) Collection Tim Bowley Recipes (moderated) 0 22-06-2004 01:28 PM
Dried Cranberry Muffins (7) Collection Edoc Recipes (moderated) 0 08-06-2004 07:42 PM

fitness forum |
All times are GMT +1. The time now is 11:47 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC6
Copyright ©2004-2008 FoodBanter.com, part of the NewsgroupBanter project.
The comments are property of their posters.
Problem Mortgage - Debt Loans - Equity Release - MPAA - 1-ski-boot.com