Rather than bottles with corks, would Mason jars work for the
finished product?

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Desertphile, American Patriot wrote:
Rather than bottles with corks, would Mason jars work for the
finished product?


Yes they would work, perhaps not as well, but they would work. Becareful
of the airspace at the top, you don't want much if any. Use all new
lids. Should be ok, but I can't garante this is the case.
Ken

desertphile@hot mail. com (Desertphile, American Patriot) wrote in message
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Rather than bottles with corks, would Mason jars work for the
finished product?

Yeah, they'll _work_ - but the metal lid is susceptible to corrosion from
the acid in wine, and that'll affect the flavor. Also, it's difficult to
get the headspace small enough.

Why bother? Bottles aren't that expensive, and they're reusable.

Tom S

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desertphile@hot mail. com (Desertphile, American Patriot) wrote in message
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Rather than bottles with corks, would Mason jars work for the
finished product?

Yeah, they'll _work_ - but the metal lid is susceptible to corrosion from
the acid in wine, and that'll affect the flavor. Also, it's difficult to
get the headspace small enough.

Regarding headspace, you could remove a lot of the air from the jar when
you close it. They've got little devices designed to do exactly this. One
end fits over the middle-piece of the normal two-piece-ring and the other
end is a vacuum tube that you either connect to a pump or suck on manually.
Basicly, it sucks the air out, and then releases the lid piece down into place.
(If you're in the US, Walmart carries them.)

That said, I don't recommend bottling in mason jars. I doubt they're
as resistant to pressure buildup as champagne bottles are. You could have
some glass grenades on your hand.

-- WB

Tom S wrote:

desertphile@hot mail. com (Desertphile, American Patriot) wrote in message
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Rather than bottles with corks, would Mason jars work for the
finished product?

Yeah, they'll _work_ - but the metal lid is susceptible to corrosion from
the acid in wine, and that'll affect the flavor. Also, it's difficult to
get the headspace small enough.

Regarding headspace, you could remove a lot of the air from the jar when
you close it. They've got little devices designed to do exactly this. One
end fits over the middle-piece of the normal two-piece-ring and the other
end is a vacuum tube that you either connect to a pump or suck on manually.
Basicly, it sucks the air out, and then releases the lid piece down into place.
(If you're in the US, Walmart carries them.)

That said, I don't recommend bottling in mason jars. I doubt they're
as resistant to pressure buildup as champagne bottles are. You could have
some glass grenades on your hand.

-- WB

I would not count on them. As commented above you will have difficulty
getting the air space small enough and corrosion may ruin your wine. If
those problem don't get you, they air leaking in probably will. Remember,
Mason jars are designed to be sealed, not by the lid being screwed down, but
by heating the jar with its contents placing the lid on and then cooling so
the vacuum will pull the lit tight. You can't, or at least should not, use
this method with wine so you can not be sure of a seal. Wine bottles were
designed for wine.

Ray

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On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 22:18:13 -0500, Ken Vale
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Desertphile, American Patriot wrote:

Rather than bottles with corks, would Mason jars work for the
finished product?

Yes they would work, perhaps not as well, but they would work. Becareful
of the airspace at the top, you don't want much if any. Use all new
lids. Should be ok, but I can't garante this is the case.

Thank you. The reason I asked is because I have Mason jars, but do
not have bottles, nor corks. :-) I run a raw-hide outfit here,
with no money for equipment nor easy access to any store that
sells equipment (I live in the Carson National Forest). I have
already learned a few things from this newsgroup.


Ken

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On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 22:18:13 -0500, Ken Vale
wrote:

Desertphile, American Patriot wrote:

Rather than bottles with corks, would Mason jars work for the
finished product?

Yes they would work, perhaps not as well, but they would work. Becareful
of the airspace at the top, you don't want much if any. Use all new
lids. Should be ok, but I can't garante this is the case.

Thank you. The reason I asked is because I have Mason jars, but do
not have bottles, nor corks. :-) I run a raw-hide outfit here,
with no money for equipment nor easy access to any store that
sells equipment (I live in the Carson National Forest). I have
already learned a few things from this newsgroup.


Ken

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On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 07:18:46 GMT, "Tom S"
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desertphile@hot mail. com (Desertphile, American Patriot) wrote in message
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Rather than bottles with corks, would Mason jars work for the
finished product?

Yeah, they'll _work_ - but the metal lid is susceptible to
corrosion from the acid in wine, and that'll affect the flavor.
Also, it's difficult to get the headspace small enough.

I did not think of those things. Humm. I have some bottles that
have ceramic stoppers, with a Mason jar-like wire assembly that
seats the stopper hard up against the bottle's mouth with a rubber
gasket. I suppose I could save the Mason jars for moonshine, and
use the bottles for wine.

Why bother? Bottles aren't that expensive, and they're reusable.

I asked because I have Mason jars and do not have bottles. :-) I
live on a remote cattle ranch, going for supplies one day a month.

Yah know, if I could figure out how to turn horse shit into wine,
I'd be a billionaire.

Tom S

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On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 07:18:46 GMT, "Tom S"
wrote:

desertphile@hot mail. com (Desertphile, American Patriot) wrote in message
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Rather than bottles with corks, would Mason jars work for the
finished product?

Yeah, they'll _work_ - but the metal lid is susceptible to
corrosion from the acid in wine, and that'll affect the flavor.
Also, it's difficult to get the headspace small enough.

I did not think of those things. Humm. I have some bottles that
have ceramic stoppers, with a Mason jar-like wire assembly that
seats the stopper hard up against the bottle's mouth with a rubber
gasket. I suppose I could save the Mason jars for moonshine, and
use the bottles for wine.

Why bother? Bottles aren't that expensive, and they're reusable.

I asked because I have Mason jars and do not have bottles. :-) I
live on a remote cattle ranch, going for supplies one day a month.

Yah know, if I could figure out how to turn horse shit into wine,
I'd be a billionaire.

Tom S

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lid wrote:
Regarding headspace, you could remove a lot of the air from the jar when
you close it. They've got little devices designed to do exactly this. One
end fits over the middle-piece of the normal two-piece-ring and the other
end is a vacuum tube that you either connect to a pump or suck on manually.
Basicly, it sucks the air out, and then releases the lid piece down into place.
(If you're in the US, Walmart carries them.)

....

-- WB


I once considered this thing for storing hops in quart mason jars,
nayyy: http://www.pump-n-seal.com/.

I have no idea how well it works, but they say the seals are reusable.
I don't know how long the seal is supposed to last, but you probably
won't be cellaring this stuff anyway. As other posters have said, you
will have to be careful about rusty lids.

-bh

desertphile@hot mail. com (Desertphile, American Patriot) wrote in message
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I have some bottles that
have ceramic stoppers, with a Mason jar-like wire assembly that
seats the stopper hard up against the bottle's mouth with a rubber
gasket. I suppose I could save the Mason jars for moonshine, and
use the bottles for wine.

Those sound like Grolsch bottles. They're much better for wine than Mason
jars.

Yah know, if I could figure out how to turn horse shit into wine,
I'd be a billionaire.

That's easy. I believe it's called organic farming. ;^)

Tom S

Desertphile, American Patriot wrote:


I asked because I have Mason jars and do not have bottles. :-) I
live on a remote cattle ranch, going for supplies one day a month.


It appears your remote cattle ranch has internet access. You can order
supplies and bottles on line from many different distributors.

Desertphile, American Patriot wrote:


I asked because I have Mason jars and do not have bottles. :-) I
live on a remote cattle ranch, going for supplies one day a month.


It appears your remote cattle ranch has internet access. You can order
supplies and bottles on line from many different distributors.

Desertphile, American Patriot wrote:


I asked because I have Mason jars and do not have bottles. :-) I
live on a remote cattle ranch, going for supplies one day a month.


It appears your remote cattle ranch has internet access. You can order
supplies and bottles on line from many different distributors.