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Old 18-02-2005, 02:35 AM
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"Ray Calvert" wrote in message
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If you are short of wine bottles, and you do not have any restaurants
around that you can ask to save bottles to get free ones, you can use
gallon jugs with solid rubber bungs very nicely. You can age in these for
a couple of years with no problem.


Actually, if the original cap is clean and still fits snugly you can use it.
Most of them have a plastic liner. If not, a couple of layers of Saran Wrap
will work OK as a gasket. Be sure that the free sulfite is where it should
be and that you don't leave any airspace over the wine. Store it in a cool
place that has relatively constant temperature.

Many years ago I filled a Gallo 3 liter screwcap bottle with wine (Cabernet)
and just left it in the cellar. On opening it some 15 years later it was
fine. It had aged, but not quite as much as the cork finished wine in
regular bottles.

Tom S


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Old 18-02-2005, 02:35 AM
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"Ray Calvert" wrote in message
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If you are short of wine bottles, and you do not have any restaurants
around that you can ask to save bottles to get free ones, you can use
gallon jugs with solid rubber bungs very nicely. You can age in these for
a couple of years with no problem.


Actually, if the original cap is clean and still fits snugly you can use it.
Most of them have a plastic liner. If not, a couple of layers of Saran Wrap
will work OK as a gasket. Be sure that the free sulfite is where it should
be and that you don't leave any airspace over the wine. Store it in a cool
place that has relatively constant temperature.

Many years ago I filled a Gallo 3 liter screwcap bottle with wine (Cabernet)
and just left it in the cellar. On opening it some 15 years later it was
fine. It had aged, but not quite as much as the cork finished wine in
regular bottles.

Tom S


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Old 18-02-2005, 05:42 AM
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you could learn how to blow glass.


I'm not that way. :-)

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Old 18-02-2005, 05:34 PM
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Even better, you can probably make a deal with the bars to hold wine
bottles for you, or fill up a case every other week, or whatever rate
would match your wine output. They'd probaby be happy not to throw it
out. Don't know how much corked wine is consumed there (as opposed to
screw-caps,or other spirits, both of which are not made to take a
cork).

Then, you could mail order corks, and perhaps a hand corker, both of
which are light enough to carry horseback.

Good luck. Sounds like you're in a beautiful place.

Rob

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Old 18-02-2005, 06:16 PM
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desertphile@hot mail. com (Desertphile, American Patriot) wrote in message
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Rather than bottles with corks, would Mason jars work for the
finished product?


I had the same idea, but it exposes the wine to too much oxygen, and
pouring out of a full Mason jar is a b*tch!
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Old 18-02-2005, 06:25 PM
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desertphile@hot mail. com (Desertphile, American Patriot) wrote in message
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 07:18:46 GMT, "Tom S"
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desertphile@hot mail. com (Desertphile, American Patriot) wrote in

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Rather than bottles with corks, would Mason jars work for the
finished product?


Yeah, they'll _work_ - but the metal lid is susceptible to
corrosion from the acid in wine, and that'll affect the flavor.
Also, it's difficult to get the headspace small enough.


I did not think of those things. Humm. I have some bottles that
have ceramic stoppers, with a Mason jar-like wire assembly that
seats the stopper hard up against the bottle's mouth with a rubber
gasket. I suppose I could save the Mason jars for moonshine, and
use the bottles for wine.


Ixnay on the oonshinemay! Running a still is a good way to get your
ranch confiscated by revenuers! They =will= take it, be sure of that.


Why bother? Bottles aren't that expensive, and they're reusable.


I asked because I have Mason jars and do not have bottles. :-) I
live on a remote cattle ranch, going for supplies one day a month.

Yah know, if I could figure out how to turn horse shit into wine,
I'd be a billionaire.

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Old 18-02-2005, 06:41 PM
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:38:20 GMT, "Citlink News"
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If you have a recycling center as my town, they normally have a bin for
colored glass bottles which usually is primarily wine bottles. I have
acquired several hundred this way (no cost).


That is an excellent idea. Thank you. Hummm. There must be a hell
of a lot of bottles laying around here, since I live on the Navajo
reservation. (Er, that's didn't come out as polite as I intended.)
I will see if I can visit some bars' trash bins looking for
bottles. Why didn't I think of this!??!?!?!?!


I got all my bottles from the recycling center here on the island. I
just soak them in a tub of hot water and bleach.
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 16:54:12 -0500, "agent yellow"
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you could learn how to blow glass.


I'm not that way. :-)


So I'm not the only one with a perverted mind around here, I see....
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Old 18-02-2005, 08:47 PM
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On 18 Feb 2005 09:34:35 -0800, "Rob"
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Even better, you can probably make a deal with the bars to hold wine
bottles for you, or fill up a case every other week, or whatever rate
would match your wine output. They'd probaby be happy not to throw it
out. Don't know how much corked wine is consumed there (as opposed to
screw-caps,or other spirits, both of which are not made to take a
cork).


That is a great idea. I can ask a bar or two if they would at
least put the bottles in a pile some where outside instead of
throwing them into the trash so that I need not dig for them.

Then, you could mail order corks, and perhaps a hand corker,
both of which are light enough to carry horseback.


I saw a web site that has the stuff I can use, and they will have
it delivered to the trading post at the chapter house (where most
folks on the Rez have packages delivered). I see in the weather
forecast that it will be more than a week before the current rain
moves on. Argh! The dirt road out of there is a sucking pit of red
clay.

Good luck. Sounds like you're in a beautiful place.


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Folks around here still go into town with pistols and rifles, and
I have heard some folks even run stills in the canyons and hills
(not that I would know anything about that).

Rob


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On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 13:25:11 -0500, "Bob" wrote:

Ixnay on the oonshinemay!


Ah ain't got no knowedge of any such things. To tell the truth, if
I knew of any still on the Res I would see to it that it was
destroyed: folks around here got enough trouble without that shit.

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