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Mason Jars?



 
 
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Old 17-02-2005, 11:46 AM
frederick ploegman
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Yes, of course you can. I have been doing it for more years than I care
to recall. I still make summer/picnic novelty wines using pint mason
jars that have been converted to drinking mugs by the addition of a
glass handle (I'm sure many folks here have seen them.)

The lids are designed to provide long term storage for things like pickles,
so wine presents no problem. Don't try to vacuum seal the jars. Simply
use the lid and ring like a two piece screw cap. So long as they are
stored in a reasonably dry location there is no problem with corrosion.
Adequate sulfite will prevent oxidation. HTH

Frederick


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Rather than bottles with corks, would Mason jars work for the
finished product?

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Old 17-02-2005, 07:32 PM
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If you are short of wine bottles, and you do not have any restaurants around
that you can ask to save bottles to get free ones, you can use gallon jugs
with solid rubber bungs very nicely. You can age in these for a couple of
years with not problem. If you have a few wine bottles, and you do not
drink a gallon at a time, you can bottle one gallon at a time.

Ray

desertphile@hot mail. com (Desertphile, American Patriot) wrote in message
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 07:18:46 GMT, "Tom S"
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desertphile@hot mail. com (Desertphile, American Patriot) wrote in
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Rather than bottles with corks, would Mason jars work for the
finished product?


Yeah, they'll _work_ - but the metal lid is susceptible to
corrosion from the acid in wine, and that'll affect the flavor.
Also, it's difficult to get the headspace small enough.


I did not think of those things. Humm. I have some bottles that
have ceramic stoppers, with a Mason jar-like wire assembly that
seats the stopper hard up against the bottle's mouth with a rubber
gasket. I suppose I could save the Mason jars for moonshine, and
use the bottles for wine.

Why bother? Bottles aren't that expensive, and they're reusable.


I asked because I have Mason jars and do not have bottles. :-) I
live on a remote cattle ranch, going for supplies one day a month.

Yah know, if I could figure out how to turn horse shit into wine,
I'd be a billionaire.

Tom S


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Old 17-02-2005, 07:32 PM
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If you are short of wine bottles, and you do not have any restaurants around
that you can ask to save bottles to get free ones, you can use gallon jugs
with solid rubber bungs very nicely. You can age in these for a couple of
years with not problem. If you have a few wine bottles, and you do not
drink a gallon at a time, you can bottle one gallon at a time.

Ray

desertphile@hot mail. com (Desertphile, American Patriot) wrote in message
...
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 07:18:46 GMT, "Tom S"
wrote:

desertphile@hot mail. com (Desertphile, American Patriot) wrote in
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...


Rather than bottles with corks, would Mason jars work for the
finished product?


Yeah, they'll _work_ - but the metal lid is susceptible to
corrosion from the acid in wine, and that'll affect the flavor.
Also, it's difficult to get the headspace small enough.


I did not think of those things. Humm. I have some bottles that
have ceramic stoppers, with a Mason jar-like wire assembly that
seats the stopper hard up against the bottle's mouth with a rubber
gasket. I suppose I could save the Mason jars for moonshine, and
use the bottles for wine.

Why bother? Bottles aren't that expensive, and they're reusable.


I asked because I have Mason jars and do not have bottles. :-) I
live on a remote cattle ranch, going for supplies one day a month.

Yah know, if I could figure out how to turn horse shit into wine,
I'd be a billionaire.

Tom S


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Old 17-02-2005, 09:20 PM
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 05:54:08 -0500, "Paul E. Lehmann"
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Desertphile, American Patriot wrote:


I asked because I have Mason jars and do not have bottles. :-) I
live on a remote cattle ranch, going for supplies one day a month.


It appears your remote cattle ranch has internet access. You
can order supplies and bottles on line from many different
distributors.


That I will do. (The internet access is via satellite "Direcway,"
and they charge an extortionist fee.) The problem is I can get the
small stuff by going into town on a horse, but anything large I
will have to wait until the road dries (some time around May if
I'm lucky). I'll get some "real" bottles and some corks.

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Old 17-02-2005, 09:20 PM
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 05:54:08 -0500, "Paul E. Lehmann"
wrote:

Desertphile, American Patriot wrote:


I asked because I have Mason jars and do not have bottles. :-) I
live on a remote cattle ranch, going for supplies one day a month.


It appears your remote cattle ranch has internet access. You
can order supplies and bottles on line from many different
distributors.


That I will do. (The internet access is via satellite "Direcway,"
and they charge an extortionist fee.) The problem is I can get the
small stuff by going into town on a horse, but anything large I
will have to wait until the road dries (some time around May if
I'm lucky). I'll get some "real" bottles and some corks.

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am always impressed by the striking moral and esthetic superiority of
the dead animal to the live one." -- Edward Abbey
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Old 17-02-2005, 09:20 PM
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 06:46:46 -0500, "frederick ploegman"
wrote:

Yes, of course you can. I have been doing it for more years than I care
to recall. I still make summer/picnic novelty wines using pint mason
jars that have been converted to drinking mugs by the addition of a
glass handle (I'm sure many folks here have seen them.)

The lids are designed to provide long term storage for things like pickles,
so wine presents no problem. Don't try to vacuum seal the jars. Simply
use the lid and ring like a two piece screw cap. So long as they are
stored in a reasonably dry location there is no problem with corrosion.
Adequate sulfite will prevent oxidation. HTH


Thank you. I have two different types of containers for the
finished product, and I'll also try to get bottles and corks.
Maybe I'll use all three--- Mason jars included. :-)

Frederick


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Old 17-02-2005, 09:20 PM
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 06:46:46 -0500, "frederick ploegman"
wrote:

Yes, of course you can. I have been doing it for more years than I care
to recall. I still make summer/picnic novelty wines using pint mason
jars that have been converted to drinking mugs by the addition of a
glass handle (I'm sure many folks here have seen them.)

The lids are designed to provide long term storage for things like pickles,
so wine presents no problem. Don't try to vacuum seal the jars. Simply
use the lid and ring like a two piece screw cap. So long as they are
stored in a reasonably dry location there is no problem with corrosion.
Adequate sulfite will prevent oxidation. HTH


Thank you. I have two different types of containers for the
finished product, and I'll also try to get bottles and corks.
Maybe I'll use all three--- Mason jars included. :-)

Frederick


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Old 17-02-2005, 09:38 PM
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If you have a recycling center as my town, they normally have a bin for
colored glass bottles which usually is primarily wine bottles. I have
acquired several hundred this way (no cost).

"Ray Calvert" wrote in message
om...
If you are short of wine bottles, and you do not have any restaurants

around
that you can ask to save bottles to get free ones, you can use gallon jugs
with solid rubber bungs very nicely. You can age in these for a couple of
years with not problem. If you have a few wine bottles, and you do not
drink a gallon at a time, you can bottle one gallon at a time.

Ray

desertphile@hot mail. com (Desertphile, American Patriot) wrote in

message
...
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 07:18:46 GMT, "Tom S"
wrote:

desertphile@hot mail. com (Desertphile, American Patriot) wrote in
message
...


Rather than bottles with corks, would Mason jars work for the
finished product?

Yeah, they'll _work_ - but the metal lid is susceptible to
corrosion from the acid in wine, and that'll affect the flavor.
Also, it's difficult to get the headspace small enough.


I did not think of those things. Humm. I have some bottles that
have ceramic stoppers, with a Mason jar-like wire assembly that
seats the stopper hard up against the bottle's mouth with a rubber
gasket. I suppose I could save the Mason jars for moonshine, and
use the bottles for wine.

Why bother? Bottles aren't that expensive, and they're reusable.


I asked because I have Mason jars and do not have bottles. :-) I
live on a remote cattle ranch, going for supplies one day a month.

Yah know, if I could figure out how to turn horse shit into wine,
I'd be a billionaire.

Tom S


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Old 17-02-2005, 09:54 PM
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you could learn how to blow glass.


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Old 17-02-2005, 09:54 PM
agent yellow
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you could learn how to blow glass.


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Old 17-02-2005, 09:54 PM
agent yellow
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you could learn how to blow glass.


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Old 18-02-2005, 01:50 AM
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:38:20 GMT, "Citlink News"
wrote:

If you have a recycling center as my town, they normally have a bin for
colored glass bottles which usually is primarily wine bottles. I have
acquired several hundred this way (no cost).


That is an excellent idea. Thank you. Hummm. There must be a hell
of a lot of bottles laying around here, since I live on the Navajo
reservation. (Er, that's didn't come out as polite as I intended.)
I will see if I can visit some bars' trash bins looking for
bottles. Why didn't I think of this!??!?!?!?!

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Old 18-02-2005, 01:50 AM
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 21:38:20 GMT, "Citlink News"
wrote:

If you have a recycling center as my town, they normally have a bin for
colored glass bottles which usually is primarily wine bottles. I have
acquired several hundred this way (no cost).


That is an excellent idea. Thank you. Hummm. There must be a hell
of a lot of bottles laying around here, since I live on the Navajo
reservation. (Er, that's didn't come out as polite as I intended.)
I will see if I can visit some bars' trash bins looking for
bottles. Why didn't I think of this!??!?!?!?!

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Old 18-02-2005, 01:50 AM
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 16:54:12 -0500, "agent yellow"
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you could learn how to blow glass.


I'm not that way. :-)

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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 16:54:12 -0500, "agent yellow"
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you could learn how to blow glass.


I'm not that way. :-)

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