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Old 25-12-2004, 12:48 PM
pater
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Got a 5 liter box as a xmas gift. Says on the box how great the package
is at keeping the product "fresh" after opening, then on the side is
printed "use by june 05" Since we'll never drink six bottles of this
"chillable red" at one time, wondering if anyone ever tried putting
this stuff in bottles for longer storage or if the quality is even
worth it. Think if I cork it up & let 'er sit for a few years it'll
improve any??

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Old 25-12-2004, 03:55 PM
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In those years before I started making wine I bought gallon bottles of Carlo
Rossi Burgundy, poured into standard wine bottles, inserted a used cork part
way, wrapped with duct tape and opened a bottle when needed. I think the
wine kept very well but I would drink a gallon up in a month or so.

I wouldn't think a box wine would improve with age. Seems like they are
designed to be ready to drink when you buy them. But, by dividing the wine
up into regular glass bottles you may be able to store the wine better.

Bill Frazier
Olathe, Kansas USA

"pater" wrote in message
oups.com...
Got a 5 liter box as a xmas gift. Says on the box how great the package
is at keeping the product "fresh" after opening, then on the side is
printed "use by june 05" Since we'll never drink six bottles of this
"chillable red" at one time, wondering if anyone ever tried putting
this stuff in bottles for longer storage or if the quality is even
worth it. Think if I cork it up & let 'er sit for a few years it'll
improve any??



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Old 25-12-2004, 04:03 PM
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"pater" wrote in message
oups.com...
Got a 5 liter box as a xmas gift. Says on the box how great the package
is at keeping the product "fresh" after opening, then on the side is
printed "use by june 05" Since we'll never drink six bottles of this
"chillable red" at one time, wondering if anyone ever tried putting
this stuff in bottles for longer storage or if the quality is even
worth it. Think if I cork it up & let 'er sit for a few years it'll
improve any??

The bag in box design is a soft bag so the bag compresses as you pour and
lets no air in. Whether or not aging will improve the wine is dependant upon
what was done to it before it was bottled.

Dice up some melon, grapefruit, lime and apples and add a few cinnamon
sticks and enjoy a homemade sangria.


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Old 25-12-2004, 04:03 PM
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"pater" wrote in message
oups.com...
Got a 5 liter box as a xmas gift. Says on the box how great the package
is at keeping the product "fresh" after opening, then on the side is
printed "use by june 05" Since we'll never drink six bottles of this
"chillable red" at one time, wondering if anyone ever tried putting
this stuff in bottles for longer storage or if the quality is even
worth it. Think if I cork it up & let 'er sit for a few years it'll
improve any??

The bag in box design is a soft bag so the bag compresses as you pour and
lets no air in. Whether or not aging will improve the wine is dependant upon
what was done to it before it was bottled.

Dice up some melon, grapefruit, lime and apples and add a few cinnamon
sticks and enjoy a homemade sangria.


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Old 25-12-2004, 05:21 PM
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"pater" wrote in message
oups.com...
Got a 5 liter box as a xmas gift. Says on the box how great the package
is at keeping the product "fresh" after opening, then on the side is
printed "use by june 05" Since we'll never drink six bottles of this
"chillable red" at one time, wondering if anyone ever tried putting
this stuff in bottles for longer storage or if the quality is even
worth it. Think if I cork it up & let 'er sit for a few years it'll
improve any??


It will become a moot point well in advance of June 2005, won't it? :^)

Bag-in-a-box wines aren't intended for aging. They're ready to drink when
you buy them.

Tom S


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Old 25-12-2004, 06:52 PM
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"pater" wrote in message
oups.com...
Got a 5 liter box as a xmas gift. Says on the box how great the package
is at keeping the product "fresh" after opening, then on the side is
printed "use by june 05" Since we'll never drink six bottles of this
"chillable red" at one time, wondering if anyone ever tried putting
this stuff in bottles for longer storage or if the quality is even
worth it. Think if I cork it up & let 'er sit for a few years it'll
improve any??

I don't think it will improve with time, it is made for early drinking. My
daughter likes the Franzia Chillable Red, my wife and I prefer the Red
Sangria or White Sangria by Almaden, in 5 liter boxes. We use it as a daily
wine, because of its modest price. Checking my wine records, I find that we
usually use a 5 L box in a month or so (along with the several bottled wines
that we drink).
If you find that you want some better quality boxed wine, we find that the 3
L boxes of Hardy's Cabernet are identical in taste to the 750ml bottles.
For long term storage, the plastic sealed bag is not recommended, but for
short-term, it does not let oxygen in (when it gets almost empty, you have
to let some air in to get the rest of the liquid out).
Jim


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Old 25-12-2004, 06:52 PM
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"pater" wrote in message
oups.com...
Got a 5 liter box as a xmas gift. Says on the box how great the package
is at keeping the product "fresh" after opening, then on the side is
printed "use by june 05" Since we'll never drink six bottles of this
"chillable red" at one time, wondering if anyone ever tried putting
this stuff in bottles for longer storage or if the quality is even
worth it. Think if I cork it up & let 'er sit for a few years it'll
improve any??

I don't think it will improve with time, it is made for early drinking. My
daughter likes the Franzia Chillable Red, my wife and I prefer the Red
Sangria or White Sangria by Almaden, in 5 liter boxes. We use it as a daily
wine, because of its modest price. Checking my wine records, I find that we
usually use a 5 L box in a month or so (along with the several bottled wines
that we drink).
If you find that you want some better quality boxed wine, we find that the 3
L boxes of Hardy's Cabernet are identical in taste to the 750ml bottles.
For long term storage, the plastic sealed bag is not recommended, but for
short-term, it does not let oxygen in (when it gets almost empty, you have
to let some air in to get the rest of the liquid out).
Jim


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Old 25-12-2004, 10:16 PM
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Franzia, it is. I'm gonna drink some & bottle some & see what happens.
Nothing invested but a few bottles (at this point in time, used) & a
coupla corks. Thanks for the input.

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Old 25-12-2004, 10:16 PM
pater
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Franzia, it is. I'm gonna drink some & bottle some & see what happens.
Nothing invested but a few bottles (at this point in time, used) & a
coupla corks. Thanks for the input.

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Old 23-01-2005, 12:08 AM
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BallroomDancer wrote:
"pater" wrote in message
oups.com...
Got a 5 liter box as a xmas gift. Says on the box how great the

package
is at keeping the product "fresh" after opening, then on the side

is
printed "use by june 05" Since we'll never drink six bottles of

this
"chillable red" at one time, wondering if anyone ever tried putting
this stuff in bottles for longer storage or if the quality is even
worth it. Think if I cork it up & let 'er sit for a few years it'll
improve any??

I don't think it will improve with time, it is made for early

drinking. My
daughter likes the Franzia Chillable Red, my wife and I prefer the

Red
Sangria or White Sangria by Almaden, in 5 liter boxes. We use it as a

daily
wine, because of its modest price. Checking my wine records, I find

that we
usually use a 5 L box in a month or so (along with the several

bottled wines
that we drink).
If you find that you want some better quality boxed wine, we find

that the 3
L boxes of Hardy's Cabernet are identical in taste to the 750ml

bottles.
For long term storage, the plastic sealed bag is not recommended, but

for
short-term, it does not let oxygen in (when it gets almost empty, you

have
to let some air in to get the rest of the liquid out).
Jim


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Old 23-01-2005, 12:08 AM
cougarsdad
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BallroomDancer wrote:
"pater" wrote in message
oups.com...
Got a 5 liter box as a xmas gift. Says on the box how great the

package
is at keeping the product "fresh" after opening, then on the side

is
printed "use by june 05" Since we'll never drink six bottles of

this
"chillable red" at one time, wondering if anyone ever tried putting
this stuff in bottles for longer storage or if the quality is even
worth it. Think if I cork it up & let 'er sit for a few years it'll
improve any??

I don't think it will improve with time, it is made for early

drinking. My
daughter likes the Franzia Chillable Red, my wife and I prefer the

Red
Sangria or White Sangria by Almaden, in 5 liter boxes. We use it as a

daily
wine, because of its modest price. Checking my wine records, I find

that we
usually use a 5 L box in a month or so (along with the several

bottled wines
that we drink).
If you find that you want some better quality boxed wine, we find

that the 3
L boxes of Hardy's Cabernet are identical in taste to the 750ml

bottles.
For long term storage, the plastic sealed bag is not recommended, but

for
short-term, it does not let oxygen in (when it gets almost empty, you

have
to let some air in to get the rest of the liquid out).
Jim


 




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