A weird question but where do wine calories come from?
A 4 oz. glass contains 77 calories
0 gr. fat
0 gr. protein
1 gr. carb
That would mean it contains 4 calories ?!?
I don't get it...
Louise)

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"David J." wrote in message
m...
Alcohol has 7 cals per gram.

fat = 9 cals per gram
alcohol = 7 cals per gram
carbs = 4 cals per gram
protein = 4 cals per gram

David
Wrong units, use Kcals.

"David J." wrote in message
m...
Alcohol has 7 cals per gram.

fat = 9 cals per gram
alcohol = 7 cals per gram
carbs = 4 cals per gram
protein = 4 cals per gram

David
Wrong units, use Kcals.

On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 17:47:12 -0500, "J F" wrote:

alcohol = 7 cals per gram
Wrong units, use Kcals.


A food Calorie is the same thing as a scientific "real" kcal or
kilocalorie (not Kcal), that is 1000 scientific calories or 4184
Joules..

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http://www.mad-alchemy.com
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"Darren George" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 17:47:12 -0500, "J F" wrote:

alcohol = 7 cals per gram
Wrong units, use Kcals.


A food Calorie is the same thing as a scientific "real" kcal or
kilocalorie (not Kcal), that is 1000 scientific calories or 4184
Joules..

It's a food Calorie = 1000 calories

Hence the wrong units.

"Darren George" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 17:47:12 -0500, "J F" wrote:

alcohol = 7 cals per gram
Wrong units, use Kcals.


A food Calorie is the same thing as a scientific "real" kcal or
kilocalorie (not Kcal), that is 1000 scientific calories or 4184
Joules..

It's a food Calorie = 1000 calories

Hence the wrong units.

"J F" wrote in message
. ..

"Darren George" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 17:47:12 -0500, "J F" wrote:

alcohol = 7 cals per gram
Wrong units, use Kcals.


A food Calorie is the same thing as a scientific "real" kcal or
kilocalorie (not Kcal), that is 1000 scientific calories or 4184
Joules..

It's a food Calorie = 1000 calories

Hence the wrong units.


By definition, a food calorie is the same thing as a scientific calorie.
But the body does not know that definition. In terms of nutrition, not all
calories are the same. Eat (or drink) 25,000 calories a day of sugar and
you are going to gain weight. Eat 25,000 calories a day of wood or coal or
diamonds and you will not. Calories are the same if they are burned in a
fire but nutritionally they are not. Sugars can be converted directly to
fat in the body. Other calorie bearing nutrients must be converted to sugar
before they are converted to fat. That uses some of their energy. Many
dieticians don't like to admit it but they are not the same. Alcohol is not
used the same by the body as sugar.

Ray

"J F" wrote in message
. ..

"Darren George" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 17:47:12 -0500, "J F" wrote:

alcohol = 7 cals per gram
Wrong units, use Kcals.


A food Calorie is the same thing as a scientific "real" kcal or
kilocalorie (not Kcal), that is 1000 scientific calories or 4184
Joules..

It's a food Calorie = 1000 calories

Hence the wrong units.


By definition, a food calorie is the same thing as a scientific calorie.
But the body does not know that definition. In terms of nutrition, not all
calories are the same. Eat (or drink) 25,000 calories a day of sugar and
you are going to gain weight. Eat 25,000 calories a day of wood or coal or
diamonds and you will not. Calories are the same if they are burned in a
fire but nutritionally they are not. Sugars can be converted directly to
fat in the body. Other calorie bearing nutrients must be converted to sugar
before they are converted to fat. That uses some of their energy. Many
dieticians don't like to admit it but they are not the same. Alcohol is not
used the same by the body as sugar.

Ray

By definition, a food calorie is the same thing as a scientific calorie.

No it isn't. A dietary Calorie (usually given with a capital C to
avoid confusion) is 1000 scientific calories.

Cite?
http://whatis.techtarget.com/definit...771826,00.html

http://www.health24.com/dietnfood/Ca...-469,29836.asp
Which says that "The difference between calories and kilojoules is
that one calorie equals 4,2 kilojoules and vice versa." A scentific
calorie is 4.184 Joules (not kilojoules), so there's your factor of
1000 difference.

http://discoveryschools.com.au/guide...rol/vocab.html
Gives the following definitions:

"calorie
Definition: With a lowercase c, the term refers to the amount of
energy needed to raise the temperature of one gram of water one degree
Celsius
Context: When it comes to staying healthy, counting calories is much
less important than eating a balanced diet.

Calorie
Definition: With an uppercase C, the term refers to the amount of
energy required to raise one kilogram of water (about 2.2 pounds) one
degree Celsius; one Calorie, or kcal, is equal to 1,000 calories
Context: Nutrition is measured in Calories."


Eat (or drink) 25,000 calories a day of sugar and you are going to gain weight.
Eat 25,000 calories a day of wood or coal or diamonds and you will not.

Unlike alcohol, protien, and fat, neither wood, coal, nor diamonds are
digestible in any way. Is your statement meant to be relevant in any
way, shape or form?

---The Mad Alchemist---
http://www.mad-alchemy.com
Email sent to the above address, unless clearly marked
as wine or heraldry, will be deleted unread.

By definition, a food calorie is the same thing as a scientific calorie.

No it isn't. A dietary Calorie (usually given with a capital C to
avoid confusion) is 1000 scientific calories.

Cite?
http://whatis.techtarget.com/definit...771826,00.html

http://www.health24.com/dietnfood/Ca...-469,29836.asp
Which says that "The difference between calories and kilojoules is
that one calorie equals 4,2 kilojoules and vice versa." A scentific
calorie is 4.184 Joules (not kilojoules), so there's your factor of
1000 difference.

http://discoveryschools.com.au/guide...rol/vocab.html
Gives the following definitions:

"calorie
Definition: With a lowercase c, the term refers to the amount of
energy needed to raise the temperature of one gram of water one degree
Celsius
Context: When it comes to staying healthy, counting calories is much
less important than eating a balanced diet.

Calorie
Definition: With an uppercase C, the term refers to the amount of
energy required to raise one kilogram of water (about 2.2 pounds) one
degree Celsius; one Calorie, or kcal, is equal to 1,000 calories
Context: Nutrition is measured in Calories."


Eat (or drink) 25,000 calories a day of sugar and you are going to gain weight.
Eat 25,000 calories a day of wood or coal or diamonds and you will not.

Unlike alcohol, protien, and fat, neither wood, coal, nor diamonds are
digestible in any way. Is your statement meant to be relevant in any
way, shape or form?

---The Mad Alchemist---
http://www.mad-alchemy.com
Email sent to the above address, unless clearly marked
as wine or heraldry, will be deleted unread.

Darren, yes I was making a point but this is getting too far off topic. I
should not have responded above. If you want to respond directly to me I
will discuss this. I could not respond directly to you.

Ray
..

Darren, yes I was making a point but this is getting too far off topic. I
should not have responded above. If you want to respond directly to me I
will discuss this. I could not respond directly to you.

Ray
..

Ray Calvert said on 12/17/2004 11:47 AM:
"J F" wrote in message
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"Darren George" wrote in message
news
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 17:47:12 -0500, "J F" wrote:


alcohol = 7 cals per gram

Wrong units, use Kcals.


A food Calorie is the same thing as a scientific "real" kcal or
kilocalorie (not Kcal), that is 1000 scientific calories or 4184
Joules..


It's a food Calorie = 1000 calories

Hence the wrong units.



By definition, a food calorie is the same thing as a scientific calorie.
But the body does not know that definition. In terms of nutrition, not all
calories are the same. Eat (or drink) 25,000 calories a day of sugar and
you are going to gain weight. Eat 25,000 calories a day of wood or coal or
diamonds and you will not. Calories are the same if they are burned in a
fire but nutritionally they are not. Sugars can be converted directly to
fat in the body. Other calorie bearing nutrients must be converted to sugar
before they are converted to fat. That uses some of their energy. Many
dieticians don't like to admit it but they are not the same. Alcohol is not
used the same by the body as sugar.

Ray


Now you have me wondering: Before the yeast goes in, the must
that we all make wine from is disgustingly sweet. I'd imagine
that the calorie count would be pretty high on a glass of
unfermented must. Do you think the finished product is as high
in calories (regarless of the type of calorie)? Just wondering.


--
Joe
http://www.joekaz.net/
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Joe wrote:


Now you have me wondering:

SNIP

Do you think the finished product is as high in calories (regarless of
the type of
calorie)? Just wondering.



Ya know, Joe, I hate it when somebody asks a question like that. ;-)
It took me 45 minutes to research & calculate the answer!

It seems that 23Brix juice would have about 900 Calories per Liter from
carbs, while dry 12% wine would have about 650 Calories per Liter. I
guess the difference is in the CO2 & heat given off.
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Mike MTM, Cokesbury, New Jersey, USA

Now you have me wondering: Before the yeast goes in, the must
that we all make wine from is disgustingly sweet. I'd imagine
that the calorie count would be pretty high on a glass of
unfermented must. Do you think the finished product is as high
in calories (regarless of the type of calorie)? Just wondering.


Depending on how high your brix percentage is it's around 150-250g/l sugar.