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09-10-2004, 06:47 AM
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Just wondrin'
Is it possible to recreate the same wines by carefully recording the
ingredients and conditions and following them? anyone3 have any experience with this? Also Iam going to look at the winemaking kit at Wal*Mart, any suggestions here? pk 
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09-10-2004, 10:37 PM
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I have even found making two identical kits -- with the same batch number,
separately, in different fermenters but under identical storage conditions ( i.e. side by side ) -- will produce distinctly different results after bulk aging. Too many imponderables!!! -- Trevor A Panther In South Yorkshire, England Remove "PSANTISPAM" from my address line to reply. All outgoing mail is scanned by Norton Anti Virus for your protection too! "Tom S" wrote in message om... "p k" wrote in message link.net... Is it possible to recreate the same wines by carefully recording the ingredients and conditions and following them? Only if the juice is identical - which it wouldn't be from one batch to the next. Tom S
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10-10-2004, 03:39 AM
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"p k" wrote in message
link.net... Is it possible to recreate the same wines by carefully recording the ingredients and conditions and following them? Well, theory and facts are two different things. Commercial wimeries supposedly do it all year long. I have tried and some unknown variable always seems to creep in. I'm getting better, but I've not arrived yet. anyone3 have any experience with this? Also Iam going to look at the winemaking kit at Wal*Mart, any suggestions here? Yeah; don't buy it. pk
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15-10-2004, 08:31 PM
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I have even divided crushed grape juice in two different 6 gal carboyees and
fermenting them side by side can yield different tasting wines. Ray "pinky" wrote in message ... I have even found making two identical kits -- with the same batch number, separately, in different fermenters but under identical storage conditions ( i.e. side by side ) -- will produce distinctly different results after bulk aging. Too many imponderables!!! -- Trevor A Panther In South Yorkshire, England Remove "PSANTISPAM" from my address line to reply. All outgoing mail is scanned by Norton Anti Virus for your protection too! "Tom S" wrote in message om... "p k" wrote in message link.net... Is it possible to recreate the same wines by carefully recording the ingredients and conditions and following them? Only if the juice is identical - which it wouldn't be from one batch to the next. Tom S
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15-10-2004, 08:31 PM
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I have even divided crushed grape juice in two different 6 gal carboyees and
fermenting them side by side can yield different tasting wines. Ray "pinky" wrote in message ... I have even found making two identical kits -- with the same batch number, separately, in different fermenters but under identical storage conditions ( i.e. side by side ) -- will produce distinctly different results after bulk aging. Too many imponderables!!! -- Trevor A Panther In South Yorkshire, England Remove "PSANTISPAM" from my address line to reply. All outgoing mail is scanned by Norton Anti Virus for your protection too! "Tom S" wrote in message om... "p k" wrote in message link.net... Is it possible to recreate the same wines by carefully recording the ingredients and conditions and following them? Only if the juice is identical - which it wouldn't be from one batch to the next. Tom S
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16-10-2004, 02:01 AM
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"Bob" wrote in message news:UfudnW4gGpqyPPXcRVn- Is it possible to recreate the same wines by carefully recording the ingredients and conditions and following them? Well, theory and facts are two different things. Commercial wimeries supposedly do it all year long. I have tried and some unknown variable always seems to creep in. I'm getting better, but I've not arrived yet. Commericial wineries happen to have fully stocked labs and fix the wines to completely regular variables and then blend everything together across 56,000 gallon tanks. They can even hold back 10,000 gallons to blend with the next batch.
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16-10-2004, 02:01 AM
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"Bob" wrote in message news:UfudnW4gGpqyPPXcRVn- Is it possible to recreate the same wines by carefully recording the ingredients and conditions and following them? Well, theory and facts are two different things. Commercial wimeries supposedly do it all year long. I have tried and some unknown variable always seems to creep in. I'm getting better, but I've not arrived yet. Commericial wineries happen to have fully stocked labs and fix the wines to completely regular variables and then blend everything together across 56,000 gallon tanks. They can even hold back 10,000 gallons to blend with the next batch.
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17-10-2004, 01:52 AM
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"J F" wrote in message
... "Bob" wrote in message news:UfudnW4gGpqyPPXcRVn- Is it possible to recreate the same wines by carefully recording the ingredients and conditions and following them? Well, theory and facts are two different things. Commercial wimeries supposedly do it all year long. I have tried and some unknown variable always seems to creep in. I'm getting better, but I've not arrived yet. Commericial wineries happen to have fully stocked labs and fix the wines to completely regular variables and then blend everything together across 56,000 gallon tanks. They can even hold back 10,000 gallons to blend with the next batch. I've seen some pretty amazing aerial photos.....
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17-10-2004, 01:52 AM
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"J F" wrote in message
... "Bob" wrote in message news:UfudnW4gGpqyPPXcRVn- Is it possible to recreate the same wines by carefully recording the ingredients and conditions and following them? Well, theory and facts are two different things. Commercial wimeries supposedly do it all year long. I have tried and some unknown variable always seems to creep in. I'm getting better, but I've not arrived yet. Commericial wineries happen to have fully stocked labs and fix the wines to completely regular variables and then blend everything together across 56,000 gallon tanks. They can even hold back 10,000 gallons to blend with the next batch. I've seen some pretty amazing aerial photos.....
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