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Adding fruit while bulk aging



 
 
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Old 04-10-2004, 11:21 PM
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I ahve a 5 gallon batch of cherry which I started about 8 months ago
actually last February that could use a bit more flavor, is there drawbacks
to adding Oregon cherry puree at this stage?

Rick


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Old 07-10-2004, 06:08 AM
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"Rick" wrote in message ...
I ahve a 5 gallon batch of cherry which I started about 8 months ago
actually last February that could use a bit more flavor, is there drawbacks
to adding Oregon cherry puree at this stage?

Rick


Rick -
Usually the experts encourage adding stuff earlier rather than
later. If you are adding anything that contains sugar (like the
cherry puree), you need to make sure the wine is stabilized with
sorbate and bisulfite, so that you don't get renewed fermentation.
The other downside is that you are adding something with more solids,
so you will have to wait until the solids from the puree settle out,
before you can bottle. Adding puree may cause issues with pectin,
etc. that you will need to deal with, in order to have the wine clear
properly (again).

If you feel you must add something, I'd recommend trying just
juice of some sort (a clear liquid) and testing it on a small scale.
After mixing, I'd wait at least a week or two before bottling, just to
make sure everything has settled.

Doug
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"Rick" wrote in message ...
I ahve a 5 gallon batch of cherry which I started about 8 months ago
actually last February that could use a bit more flavor, is there drawbacks
to adding Oregon cherry puree at this stage?

Rick


Rick -
Usually the experts encourage adding stuff earlier rather than
later. If you are adding anything that contains sugar (like the
cherry puree), you need to make sure the wine is stabilized with
sorbate and bisulfite, so that you don't get renewed fermentation.
The other downside is that you are adding something with more solids,
so you will have to wait until the solids from the puree settle out,
before you can bottle. Adding puree may cause issues with pectin,
etc. that you will need to deal with, in order to have the wine clear
properly (again).

If you feel you must add something, I'd recommend trying just
juice of some sort (a clear liquid) and testing it on a small scale.
After mixing, I'd wait at least a week or two before bottling, just to
make sure everything has settled.

Doug
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Old 07-10-2004, 01:39 PM
Dar V
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Rick,
I agree with the previous poster, if you're going to start adding stuff
to the wine at this stage, then I would have concerns about fermentation
starting again and pectin hazes. It would mean you might be starting all
over again, I don't know that I would do that, especially if you want to
bottle it soon. I only make 1 gallon batches, so if a wine doesn't turn out
then I only have 5 bottles to decide what to do with.
I've made cherry wine, and what it tastes like at 8 months isn't what it
will taste like at 1 year or 2 years. I just opened a cherry wine I made 2
years ago. Yes, I wasn't totally happy with it, but since I had been having
a bottle every so often, I could see how it matured. I made a second batch
in which I tried to make some changes so that I would like it better (it is
aging now). I bought fruit for a third batch last week.
Just an suggestion, since you have 5 gallons, you could divide it up
into 1 gallon batches - bottle one or two gallons, let another sit and bulk
age longer, add something/puree to another gallon, and sweeten & stabilize
another...? I would hate to see you lose the entire batch to
experimentation. Keep good records, so that you know what you did, when you
start tasting it. Good-luck.
Darlene

"Rick" wrote in message
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I ahve a 5 gallon batch of cherry which I started about 8 months ago
actually last February that could use a bit more flavor, is there
drawbacks
to adding Oregon cherry puree at this stage?

Rick




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Old 07-10-2004, 02:49 PM
A. J. Rawls
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On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 17:21:39 -0500, "Rick"
wrote:

I ahve a 5 gallon batch of cherry which I started about 8 months ago
actually last February that could use a bit more flavor, is there drawbacks
to adding Oregon cherry puree at this stage?

Rick


Your local home brew shop should have Fruit Flavoring that you can
add...



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Old 08-10-2004, 05:15 AM
Rick
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OK thanks for the input I'll just leave it bulk age some more and bottle
next spring.
And as far as the lacking cherry flavor goes I imagine there's a good chance
it's due to the
young off flavors.

Thanks again,
Rick




I ahve a 5 gallon batch of cherry which I started about 8 months ago
actually last February that could use a bit more flavor, is there

drawbacks
to adding Oregon cherry puree at this stage?

Rick



 




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