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is it ok to freeze grapes?



 
 
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Old 27-09-2004, 11:58 PM
omission9
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Default is it ok to freeze grapes?

I checked the faq and this question isn't in there.
I recently got ahold of some fresh from the vines grapes. It is going
to be a while before I can use them for anything. Is it ok for me to
freeze them with the intent of making a wine from them at some point
in the next few weeks? I have made beer before but never wine so this
would be my first batch and I am looking forward to using these grapes
from my families property.
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Old 28-09-2004, 11:30 AM
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I have frozen them and eaten them while they were still frozen, but I think
I would process them and freeze the juice rather than the whole grape for
wine use. Maybe another reader will have another idea about it.

Dwayne


"omission9" wrote in message
om...
I checked the faq and this question isn't in there.
I recently got ahold of some fresh from the vines grapes. It is going
to be a while before I can use them for anything. Is it ok for me to
freeze them with the intent of making a wine from them at some point
in the next few weeks? I have made beer before but never wine so this
would be my first batch and I am looking forward to using these grapes
from my families property.




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Old 28-09-2004, 11:30 AM
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I have frozen them and eaten them while they were still frozen, but I think
I would process them and freeze the juice rather than the whole grape for
wine use. Maybe another reader will have another idea about it.

Dwayne


"omission9" wrote in message
om...
I checked the faq and this question isn't in there.
I recently got ahold of some fresh from the vines grapes. It is going
to be a while before I can use them for anything. Is it ok for me to
freeze them with the intent of making a wine from them at some point
in the next few weeks? I have made beer before but never wine so this
would be my first batch and I am looking forward to using these grapes
from my families property.




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Old 28-09-2004, 11:38 AM
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"omission9" wrote in message
om...
I checked the faq and this question isn't in there.
I recently got ahold of some fresh from the vines grapes. It is going
to be a while before I can use them for anything. Is it ok for me to
freeze them with the intent of making a wine from them at some point
in the next few weeks? I have made beer before but never wine so this
would be my first batch and I am looking forward to using these grapes
from my families property.


If they are red, freeze with the skins on. White grapes, you may want to
press first and keep/freeze the juice.

Steve


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Old 28-09-2004, 01:25 PM
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Dwayne wrote:
I have frozen them and eaten them while they were still frozen, but I think
I would process them and freeze the juice rather than the whole grape for
wine use. Maybe another reader will have another idea about it.

Dwayne



Freezing and thawing the grapes should increase the yield of juice when
you press them because the ice crystals will do a lot of cell damage and
allow the juices to flow out. You might not be able to press white
juice from dark grapes, if that's a consideration.

Bob
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Old 28-09-2004, 01:25 PM
zxcvbob
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Dwayne wrote:
I have frozen them and eaten them while they were still frozen, but I think
I would process them and freeze the juice rather than the whole grape for
wine use. Maybe another reader will have another idea about it.

Dwayne



Freezing and thawing the grapes should increase the yield of juice when
you press them because the ice crystals will do a lot of cell damage and
allow the juices to flow out. You might not be able to press white
juice from dark grapes, if that's a consideration.

Bob
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Old 29-09-2004, 07:05 PM
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Certainly, the grapes that you get from Brehm's are frozen, and the results are
often spectacular. They freeze the reds whole, but the whites are just juice.

Lee
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Old 29-09-2004, 10:02 PM
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"LG1111" wrote in message
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Certainly, the grapes that you get from Brehm's are frozen, and the

results are
often spectacular. They freeze the reds whole, but the whites are just

juice.

Too bad they are only on the west coast...

Steve


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Old 30-09-2004, 12:38 AM
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Certainly, the grapes that you get from Brehm's are frozen, and the
results are
often spectacular. They freeze the reds whole, but the whites are just

juice.

Too bad they are only on the west coast...

Steve

Brehm will ship anywhere. They're pricey, but I think they're worth it.

Lee
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Old 30-09-2004, 06:09 AM
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"LG1111" wrote in message
...
Certainly, the grapes that you get from Brehm's are frozen, and the
results are
often spectacular. They freeze the reds whole, but the whites are just

juice.

Too bad they are only on the west coast...

Steve

Brehm will ship anywhere. They're pricey, but I think they're worth it.


Sooooo, could a guy freeze his grapes instead of running them through a
crusher? Seems like it might be an easy task to destem the frozen buggers,
too, then let them thaw.


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Old 01-10-2004, 09:32 PM
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I'd suggest destemming them first, then just freezing the must. The freezing
will break down cell membranes and hasten color extraction once you thaw. Try
it, and let us know how they turn out.

Lee
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Old 03-10-2004, 12:30 PM
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Sooooo, could a guy freeze his grapes instead of running them through a
crusher? Seems like it might be an easy task to destem the frozen buggers,
too, then let them thaw.


Thats what I plan to do. I am waiting for frozen grapes to come in
from Oak Grove and I want to do all the fermenting and pressing at the
same time.
Tim
 




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