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4 bottles after a 5L carboy?



 
 
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Old 16-06-2004, 04:35 PM
Dr. Richard E. Hawkins
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Default 4 bottles after a 5L carboy?

I now happily own a half-dozen 5 gallon carboys.

Or I thought it was happily.

I racked a batch into one of these to store for a few months, expecting
two and a partial bottles to be left over.

Nope.

*four* full bottles after filling to the neck.

Yikes.

hawk
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Old 17-06-2004, 02:21 AM
Glen Duff
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Default 4 bottles after a 5L carboy?

Sorry, I don't understand your point.

If your carboy is 5 gallons (I assume U.S. gal and not Imperial) then
your batch of wine was just under 6 U.S. gallons yielding one full
carboy and 4 x 750 ml bottles. The extra wine is very helpful for
topping up when you rack.

Cheers,

Glen Duff
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Dr. Richard E. Hawkins wrote:

I now happily own a half-dozen 5 gallon carboys.

Or I thought it was happily.

I racked a batch into one of these to store for a few months, expecting
two and a partial bottles to be left over.

Nope.

*four* full bottles after filling to the neck.

Yikes.

hawk


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Old 17-06-2004, 03:53 AM
Tom S
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Default 4 bottles after a 5L carboy?


"Glen Duff" wrote in message
...
The extra wine is very helpful for
topping up when you rack.


Not to mention when sneaking a taste... ;^)

Tom S


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Old 17-06-2004, 11:18 AM
Joe Sallustio
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Default 4 bottles after a 5L carboy?

Are you saying there is variability between 5 gallon (US) carboys? If
so, that's my experience too. Most of mine end up working out to
~25.5 bottles of wine which is about right; 25.23 750 ml bottles is
where they should end up. I have some that end up over 26. They are
not precision made, so it's not really unexpected to me. (Some take
a number 6 stopper, others a 7.5...) I started marking mine when I
bottle so I know which ones are which. Most of mine came out of the
same manufacturer in Mexico and are less than 10 years old, but I have
a few that are really old too. I'm pretty sure I have none that come
out to less than 25 bottles.
Regards,
Joe

(Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) wrote in message ...
I now happily own a half-dozen 5 gallon carboys.

Or I thought it was happily.

I racked a batch into one of these to store for a few months, expecting
two and a partial bottles to be left over.

Nope.

*four* full bottles after filling to the neck.

Yikes.

hawk

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Old 17-06-2004, 02:04 PM
Glen Duff
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Default 4 bottles after a 5L carboy?

Joe,

I think Canadians are generally more aware of this than the U.S. folks
since we are little more used to using both U.S. gallons and Imperial
gallons. Here are the conversions:

1 U.S. gallon = 3.785 liters
1 Imperial gallon = 4.542 liters or 1.2 U.S. gallons
1 U.S. gallon yields 5 x 750 ml bottles
1 Imperial gallon yields 6 x 750 ml bottles

If you can collect a few Imperial Gallons as well as U.S. gallons they
are very handy for adjusting extra volumes. Our our Imperial Gallons
require a #6.5 bung and the U.S. jugs generally take a #8.

Cheers,

Glen Duff
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Joe Sallustio wrote:

Are you saying there is variability between 5 gallon (US) carboys? If
so, that's my experience too. Most of mine end up working out to
~25.5 bottles of wine which is about right; 25.23 750 ml bottles is
where they should end up. I have some that end up over 26. They are
not precision made, so it's not really unexpected to me. (Some take
a number 6 stopper, others a 7.5...) I started marking mine when I
bottle so I know which ones are which. Most of mine came out of the
same manufacturer in Mexico and are less than 10 years old, but I have
a few that are really old too. I'm pretty sure I have none that come
out to less than 25 bottles.
Regards,
Joe

(Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) wrote in message ...

I now happily own a half-dozen 5 gallon carboys.

Or I thought it was happily.

I racked a batch into one of these to store for a few months, expecting
two and a partial bottles to be left over.

Nope.

*four* full bottles after filling to the neck.

Yikes.

hawk


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Old 17-06-2004, 09:43 PM
Dr. Richard E. Hawkins
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Default 4 bottles after a 5L carboy?

In article ,
Joe Sallustio wrote:
Are you saying there is variability between 5 gallon (US) carboys? If
so, that's my experience too. Most of mine end up working out to
~25.5 bottles of wine which is about right; 25.23 750 ml bottles is
where they should end up. I have some that end up over 26. They are
not precision made, so it's not really unexpected to me. (Some take
a number 6 stopper, others a 7.5...) I started marking mine when I
bottle so I know which ones are which. Most of mine came out of the
same manufacturer in Mexico and are less than 10 years old, but I have
a few that are really old too. I'm pretty sure I have none that come
out to less than 25 bottles.



I'd known that the mouthsize varied, as I used to stock assorted sizes
(6,6.5,7?) for the 6 gal carboys I used for brewing (all shattered long
ago [and purchased used at homebrew stores for about $8]).

I was expecting the volume to be constant, though, and that it would
hold 5.5 gallons.

hawk, who now needs 6 gal carboys to accompany his 5 gal carboys


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Old 17-06-2004, 09:46 PM
Dr. Richard E. Hawkins
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Default 4 bottles after a 5L carboy?

In article ,
Glen Duff wrote:
Sorry, I don't understand your point.


If your carboy is 5 gallons (I assume U.S. gal and not Imperial) then
your batch of wine was just under 6 U.S. gallons yielding one full
carboy and 4 x 750 ml bottles. The extra wine is very helpful for
topping up when you rack.


But I was expecting it to hold 5.5 US gal, leaving .5 gal, or something
between 2 & 3 bottles. Hmm, maybe I should put some in 12 oz beer
bottles for topping off . . . at the moment, however, I'm more worried
about stocking up for drinking than for topping off. I can only have
three primary/secondary fermentatinos going on at once at the moment.

hawk
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Richard E. Hawkins, Asst. Prof. of Economics /"\ ASCII ribbon campaign
111 Hiller (814) 375-4846 \ / against HTML mail
These opinions will not be those of X and postings.
Penn State until it pays my retainer. / \
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Old 18-06-2004, 03:18 AM
William Frazier
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Default 4 bottles after a 5L carboy?


Richard E. Hawkins wrote "Hmm, maybe I should put some in 12 oz beer
bottles for topping off . . . "


Hawk - That's exactly what I do. I fill them to the brim and cap. One
bottle is about the right amount to top up a barrel in my cellar. Good
idea.

Bill Frazier
Olathe, Kansas USA


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Old 18-06-2004, 03:09 PM
Joe Sallustio
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Default 4 bottles after a 5L carboy?

Just call a local restaurant and see if they will save you a few 3
liter jugs from the house wines. I have a few 3, 6 and 7 gallon
carboys for the leftovers. The smallest topping wine bottle I usally
save id a 1.5 liter.

I blend all the reds, (all the whites seperately) for topping wine.
To be honest, it's often the best wine I make... No science, not
forethought, just happenstance. )
Regards,
Joe


I was expecting the volume to be constant, though, and that it would
hold 5.5 gallons.

hawk, who now needs 6 gal carboys to accompany his 5 gal carboys

 




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