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sanitizing of equipment and bottles with KMS or SMS



 
 
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Old 10-04-2004, 08:41 AM
Neil R.
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Default sanitizing of equipment and bottles with KMS or SMS

it is the molecular sulphur dioxide content of free sulphide dioxide that
protects wine from oxidation and microbial attack. the content of molecular
sulphur dioxide in the free sulphur dioxide depends on the pH of the wine
with lower pH's having the higher content. eg. pH 3.0 = 6% , pH 4.0 = 0.6%
therefore it would seem to me if u r using metabisulphite as a sanitising
agent for equipment and bottles it is useless unless the water used is
acidified to at least below a pH of 4.0.
any comment?
neil


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Old 12-04-2004, 03:21 PM
Clyde Gill
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Default sanitizing of equipment and bottles with KMS or SMS

it is the molecular sulphur dioxide content of free sulphide dioxide that
protects wine from oxidation and microbial attack. the content of molecular
sulphur dioxide in the free sulphur dioxide depends on the pH of the wine
with lower pH's having the higher content. eg. pH 3.0 = 6% , pH 4.0 = 0.6%
therefore it would seem to me if u r using metabisulphite as a sanitising
agent for equipment and bottles it is useless unless the water used is
acidified to at least below a pH of 4.0.
any comment?
neil


You are absolutely correct Neil. Even then, it's not overly effective
at killing anything, mainly just stymies (inhibits)the bugs. The same
effect occurs in the wine. Most of the cultured yeast used today are
quite resilient to sulfur, and once the free levels become bound, the
MLF are no loner inhibited either.

I've always questioned the use of meta on equipment or bottles. Never
seen it done in a winery. I for one don't care to smell that stuff
anymore than necessary and would sooner use a simple detergent. But
for the record, we do use a non-chlorine sanitizer.

clyde
Steelville, Missouri, USofA
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Old 14-04-2004, 03:12 AM
BooDee
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Default sanitizing of equipment and bottles with KMS or SMS

Metabi is used quite regularly for sanitation throughout the wine industry
(I work for a winery myself). Yes at higher pH there is less molecular, but
this is less molecular per gram of metabi added to the liquid. When you're
using water you can add as much metabi as you wish to reach the
sterilization amount as the minimum molecular or more (ie 1000ppm 10000ppm
....it doesn't matter) an amount which would never be added to a cherished
wine! In wine however, most winemakers don't feel comfortable adding such
grand amounts. But when its just dissolved in water you can make whatever
concentration you wish to achieve.

"Neil R." wrote in message
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it is the molecular sulphur dioxide content of free sulphide dioxide that
protects wine from oxidation and microbial attack. the content of

molecular
sulphur dioxide in the free sulphur dioxide depends on the pH of the wine
with lower pH's having the higher content. eg. pH 3.0 = 6% , pH 4.0 =

0.6%
therefore it would seem to me if u r using metabisulphite as a sanitising
agent for equipment and bottles it is useless unless the water used is
acidified to at least below a pH of 4.0.
any comment?
neil




 




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