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Bitter white Zinfandel



 
 
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Old 31-03-2004, 11:28 PM
Michael Piacentini
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Just bottled yesterday and wine tastes really bitter. Is this just because
it's six months old and will get better in the bottle?
Doesn't taste like vinegar at all, just bitter.

Thanks,
Mike


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Old 01-04-2004, 01:20 AM
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"Michael Piacentini" wrote in message
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Just bottled yesterday and wine tastes really bitter. Is this just because
it's six months old and will get better in the bottle?
Doesn't taste like vinegar at all, just bitter.

Thanks,
Mike


Mike, lemon juice tastes tart (the term "sour" is reserved for wines that
are turning to vinegar). The white material under the skin on grapefruit
tasts bitter. Does your white Zin taste tart or bitter?
lum


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Old 01-04-2004, 02:40 AM
Michael Piacentini
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Definitely bitter
"Lum" wrote in message
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"Michael Piacentini" wrote in message
. net...
Just bottled yesterday and wine tastes really bitter. Is this just

because
it's six months old and will get better in the bottle?
Doesn't taste like vinegar at all, just bitter.

Thanks,
Mike


Mike, lemon juice tastes tart (the term "sour" is reserved for wines that
are turning to vinegar). The white material under the skin on grapefruit
tasts bitter. Does your white Zin taste tart or bitter?
lum




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Old 01-04-2004, 03:37 AM
Tom S
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Default Bitter white Zinfandel


"Michael Piacentini" wrote in message
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Just bottled yesterday and wine tastes really bitter. Is this just because
it's six months old and will get better in the bottle?
Doesn't taste like vinegar at all, just bitter.


Give it time. That should mellow out. Meantime, start another batch.

Tom S


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Old 01-04-2004, 05:00 AM
Lum
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"Michael Piacentini" wrote in message
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Definitely bitter


Bitterness in wines is usually caused by phenolic materials, but compaired
to red wines, most blush wines and white wines contain relatively little
phenolic materials. All wines become less bitter and astringent as they
age, so perhaps your Zin will show some improvement in a few more months.
Good luck,
lum


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Old 01-04-2004, 11:59 AM
Joe Sallustio
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Default Bitter white Zinfandel

Sounds odd to be really bitter, how did you make it and what color is
it? It there any brown? Be specific as to how much of whatever you
used.

I would say none of my blush wines ever tasted bitter at any point.
They do change quite a bit in the bottle. They are not really meant
to last for years so really bitter could be an issue. Everything is
relative though, what is really bitter to one person might not be so
bitter to another...
Regards,
Joe


"Michael Piacentini" wrote in message ...
Definitely bitter
"Lum" wrote in message
...

"Michael Piacentini" wrote in message
. net...
Just bottled yesterday and wine tastes really bitter. Is this just

because
it's six months old and will get better in the bottle?
Doesn't taste like vinegar at all, just bitter.

Thanks,
Mike


Mike, lemon juice tastes tart (the term "sour" is reserved for wines that
are turning to vinegar). The white material under the skin on grapefruit
tasts bitter. Does your white Zin taste tart or bitter?
lum


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Old 01-04-2004, 12:16 PM
Joe Ae
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Default Bitter white Zinfandel

I also find unoaked dry white wines have a touch of bitterness. I wonder if
slightly sweeting would mask this?

Joe

"Joe Sallustio" wrote in message
om...
Sounds odd to be really bitter, how did you make it and what color is
it? It there any brown? Be specific as to how much of whatever you
used.

I would say none of my blush wines ever tasted bitter at any point.
They do change quite a bit in the bottle. They are not really meant
to last for years so really bitter could be an issue. Everything is
relative though, what is really bitter to one person might not be so
bitter to another...
Regards,
Joe


"Michael Piacentini" wrote in message

...
Definitely bitter
"Lum" wrote in message
...

"Michael Piacentini" wrote in message
. net...
Just bottled yesterday and wine tastes really bitter. Is this just

because
it's six months old and will get better in the bottle?
Doesn't taste like vinegar at all, just bitter.

Thanks,
Mike

Mike, lemon juice tastes tart (the term "sour" is reserved for wines

that
are turning to vinegar). The white material under the skin on

grapefruit
tasts bitter. Does your white Zin taste tart or bitter?
lum




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Old 01-04-2004, 03:11 PM
Michael Piacentini
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Default Bitter white Zinfandel

The color is really good, no brown whatsoever.
It came from fresh juices and I added yeast nutrient in the beginning and
and added sulfites at racking in October. Also added pectic enzyme when
starting fermentation.
Started the batch in late August.

Thanks
"Joe Ae" wrote in message
. ..
I also find unoaked dry white wines have a touch of bitterness. I wonder

if
slightly sweeting would mask this?

Joe

"Joe Sallustio" wrote in message
om...
Sounds odd to be really bitter, how did you make it and what color is
it? It there any brown? Be specific as to how much of whatever you
used.

I would say none of my blush wines ever tasted bitter at any point.
They do change quite a bit in the bottle. They are not really meant
to last for years so really bitter could be an issue. Everything is
relative though, what is really bitter to one person might not be so
bitter to another...
Regards,
Joe


"Michael Piacentini" wrote in message

...
Definitely bitter
"Lum" wrote in message
...

"Michael Piacentini" wrote in message
. net...
Just bottled yesterday and wine tastes really bitter. Is this just
because
it's six months old and will get better in the bottle?
Doesn't taste like vinegar at all, just bitter.

Thanks,
Mike

Mike, lemon juice tastes tart (the term "sour" is reserved for wines

that
are turning to vinegar). The white material under the skin on

grapefruit
tasts bitter. Does your white Zin taste tart or bitter?
lum






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Old 01-04-2004, 06:06 PM
Tom
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Default Bitter white Zinfandel

Michael,

Where did the juice come from? Over zealous pressing could have cracked a
lot of the seeds. That could explain the bitterness.

Tom
"Michael Piacentini" wrote in message
t...
The color is really good, no brown whatsoever.
It came from fresh juices and I added yeast nutrient in the beginning and
and added sulfites at racking in October. Also added pectic enzyme when
starting fermentation.
Started the batch in late August.

Thanks
"Joe Ae" wrote in message
. ..
I also find unoaked dry white wines have a touch of bitterness. I

wonder
if
slightly sweeting would mask this?

Joe

"Joe Sallustio" wrote in message
om...
Sounds odd to be really bitter, how did you make it and what color is
it? It there any brown? Be specific as to how much of whatever you
used.

I would say none of my blush wines ever tasted bitter at any point.
They do change quite a bit in the bottle. They are not really meant
to last for years so really bitter could be an issue. Everything is
relative though, what is really bitter to one person might not be so
bitter to another...
Regards,
Joe


"Michael Piacentini" wrote in message

...
Definitely bitter
"Lum" wrote in message
...

"Michael Piacentini" wrote in message
. net...
Just bottled yesterday and wine tastes really bitter. Is this

just
because
it's six months old and will get better in the bottle?
Doesn't taste like vinegar at all, just bitter.

Thanks,
Mike

Mike, lemon juice tastes tart (the term "sour" is reserved for

wines
that
are turning to vinegar). The white material under the skin on

grapefruit
tasts bitter. Does your white Zin taste tart or bitter?
lum








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Old 01-04-2004, 07:04 PM
Ray
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Default Bitter white Zinfandel

I made some Lychee wine this last year and bottled it last month. It is
crystal clear, very little color of any type. It has a delightful, strong,
floral bouquet and is very fruity and reminiscent of Gewürztraminer. But it
too has an underlying bitterness. No seeds, stems, or skin were used. I
too hope the bitterness goes away as it is the only fault.

Ray

"Joe Sallustio" wrote in message
om...
Sounds odd to be really bitter, how did you make it and what color is
it? It there any brown? Be specific as to how much of whatever you
used.

I would say none of my blush wines ever tasted bitter at any point.
They do change quite a bit in the bottle. They are not really meant
to last for years so really bitter could be an issue. Everything is
relative though, what is really bitter to one person might not be so
bitter to another...
Regards,
Joe


"Michael Piacentini" wrote in message

...
Definitely bitter
"Lum" wrote in message
...

"Michael Piacentini" wrote in message
. net...
Just bottled yesterday and wine tastes really bitter. Is this just

because
it's six months old and will get better in the bottle?
Doesn't taste like vinegar at all, just bitter.

Thanks,
Mike

Mike, lemon juice tastes tart (the term "sour" is reserved for wines

that
are turning to vinegar). The white material under the skin on

grapefruit
tasts bitter. Does your white Zin taste tart or bitter?
lum




 




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