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Old 17-02-2004, 01:00 PM
Ali Day
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Hi,
I realise this isn't really the correct NG, but can find no other in use
that is similar.

I have been given three bottles of wine A chateau neuf du pape 1976, St
Emillion 1973, and another which I don't have the name of but will get later
1976. I don't know the vineyeards of the top of my head. But is there
anywhere online I can find if the wine is likely to have kept, what to look
for in the wine, or if it is likely to be vinegar.
They've been stored horizintally in a basement for the last 25 years, and
the colour looks OK, except one which is quite light.

or is it all a gamble?

Thanks

Ali


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Old 17-02-2004, 03:07 PM
William Frazier
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Ali Day wrote;
"I have been given three bottles of wine A chateau neuf du pape 1976, St
Emillion 1973, and another which I don't have the name of but will get later
1976. I don't know the vineyeards of the top of my head. But is there
anywhere online I can find if the wine is likely to have kept, what to look
for in the wine, or if it is likely to be vinegar. They've been stored
horizintally in a basement for the last 25 years, and the colour looks OK,
except one which is quite light. or is it all a gamble?"

Do the corks look intact? Best way to tell is to open them and taste. What
do you have to lose?

Bill Frazier
Olathe, Kansas


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Old 17-02-2004, 03:55 PM
Ali Day
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"I have been given three bottles of wine A chateau neuf du pape 1976, St
Emillion 1973, and another which I don't have the name of but will get

later
1976. I don't know the vineyeards of the top of my head. But is there
anywhere online I can find if the wine is likely to have kept, what to

look
for in the wine, or if it is likely to be vinegar. They've been stored
horizintally in a basement for the last 25 years, and the colour looks OK,
except one which is quite light. or is it all a gamble?"

Do the corks look intact? Best way to tell is to open them and taste.

What
do you have to lose?

Bill Frazier


The cork all still have their hard 'wax', seals on them and look ok. I
don't want to just drink them but maybe save them for 'the' special
occasions, but don't want to open vinegar to guests.

Thanks

Ali


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Old 17-02-2004, 04:03 PM
Tom S
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"Ali Day" wrote in message
...
Hi,
I realise this isn't really the correct NG, but can find no other in use
that is similar.


Try the alt.food.wine newsgroup. Lots of knowledgeable wine afficionados
there.

Tom S


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Old 17-02-2004, 04:19 PM
Ali Day
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"Tom S" wrote in message
. com...

"Ali Day" wrote in message
...
Hi,
I realise this isn't really the correct NG, but can find no other in use
that is similar.


Try the alt.food.wine newsgroup. Lots of knowledgeable wine afficionados
there.


Hi Tom, thanks. I tried there but all there was was a couple of spam porn
messages. Maybe I can't pick it up through work.

Cheers

A


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Old 17-02-2004, 05:35 PM
Michael
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"Ali Day" wrote in message
...
Hi,
I realise this isn't really the correct NG, but can find no other in use
that is similar.

I have been given three bottles of wine A chateau neuf du pape 1976, St
Emillion 1973, and another which I don't have the name of but will get

later
1976. I don't know the vineyeards of the top of my head. But is there
anywhere online I can find if the wine is likely to have kept,




or is it all a gamble?


'73 was not a real good year for Bordeaux

http://www.wine-pages.com/vintage.shtml#part2

The '76 du Pape seems like a maybe also. If the other btl is a '76 Bordeaux
it might be ok.

http://www.wine-pages.com/vintage.shtml#part2




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Old 17-02-2004, 06:15 PM
Lum
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"Ali Day" wrote in message
...
Hi,
I realise this isn't really the correct NG, but can find no other in use
that is similar.

I have been given three bottles of wine A chateau neuf du pape 1976, St
Emillion 1973, and another which I don't have the name of but will get

later
1976. I don't know the vineyeards of the top of my head. But is there
anywhere online I can find if the wine is likely to have kept, what to

look
for in the wine, or if it is likely to be vinegar.
They've been stored horizintally in a basement for the last 25 years, and
the colour looks OK, except one which is quite light.

or is it all a gamble?

Thanks

Ali


Hi Ali,
I don't think your three wines will be very good. They may not be vinegar,
but I think you will be lucky if they are "drinkable."
Good luck,
lum


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Old 17-02-2004, 08:12 PM
Ray
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First, if they have gone bad, they will not poison you, they will just taste
bad. So you can try them safely and toss them if you do not like them. No
pathogens live in wine. If they are vinegar you will know it on smelling or
tasting.

That is a long time to keep most wines. The fact that one has faded
indicates they were in too much light and maybe not kept at the right
temperature.

If you want to keep them just so you can say you have them, then do so and
do not worry about them being good. If you want to drink them, then try
them soon. They will certainly not improve. I would suggest trying them
with friends. Even if they are bad, your friends will know you think enough
of them to let them in on the fun. But have some good wine on hand as back
up.

Ray



"Ali Day" wrote in message
...
Hi,
I realise this isn't really the correct NG, but can find no other in use
that is similar.

I have been given three bottles of wine A chateau neuf du pape 1976, St
Emillion 1973, and another which I don't have the name of but will get

later
1976. I don't know the vineyeards of the top of my head. But is there
anywhere online I can find if the wine is likely to have kept, what to

look
for in the wine, or if it is likely to be vinegar.
They've been stored horizintally in a basement for the last 25 years, and
the colour looks OK, except one which is quite light.

or is it all a gamble?

Thanks

Ali




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Old 18-02-2004, 08:31 AM
Ali Day
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Default Old Wine question


"Ray" wrote in message
m...
First, if they have gone bad, they will not poison you, they will just

taste
bad. So you can try them safely and toss them if you do not like them.

No
pathogens live in wine. If they are vinegar you will know it on smelling

or
tasting.

That is a long time to keep most wines. The fact that one has faded
indicates they were in too much light and maybe not kept at the right
temperature.

If you want to keep them just so you can say you have them, then do so and
do not worry about them being good. If you want to drink them, then try
them soon. They will certainly not improve. I would suggest trying them
with friends. Even if they are bad, your friends will know you think

enough
of them to let them in on the fun. But have some good wine on hand as

back
up.

Ray


thanks everyone


 




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