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Residual Sugar Detection



 
 
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Old 26-12-2003, 05:07 PM
Michael Brill
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For the first time I just ran some residual sugar tests using
Clinitest and found most of the wines in the 0.25% to 0.5% sugar
range. Some of the wines seem like they have detectable level of
sugar, but I don't know if it's just a taste associated with young
wines. I read on some other posts that these aren't too far out of
whack, but I want to make sure I don't leave very detectable amounts
of sugar. Thoughts?

Also, there appears to be one wine (a syrah) that's at about 1%.
Let's say I wanted to drop that. Can I assume that primary
fermentation is as done as it's going to get by now? If so, I've read
something about killer yeasts that you get started at a reasonable
volume (e.g., 10%) and then add to restart the fermentation. But is
wine at 1% sugar just too low to do anything about?

....Michael
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Old 04-01-2004, 07:43 PM
Jack Keller
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Michael, I wouldn't worry about a 1% residual sugar (RS) reading. The
wine is still dry, the RS should be enhancing the Syrah's flavor, and
if the wine is stable it will be fine. I certainly wouldn't risk the
wine's stability by introducing a killer yeast strain. Besides, there
is such a thing as too dry....

Just my opinion....

Jack Keller, The Winemaking Home Page
http://winemaking.jackkeller.net/
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Old 07-01-2004, 03:19 AM
Jack Keller
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Default Residual Sugar Detection

Michael, Clinitest is still the way to go right now.

As for why a killer yeast would make a wine unstable, I guess I stated
it wrong. If you have a stable wine with 1% RS, adding yeast to it is
silly to me because 1% is a good number. I tried to point this out in
my previous post. Adding yeast to a stable wine just doesn't make
sense because (1) there isn't enough sugar in there to get a vigorous
fermentation, (2) it will take additional time to return the wine to
stability, and (3) you could render the wine too dry to be enjoyable.
In my humble opinion, a little RS is better than none -- a little RS
enhances flavor.

Jack Keller, The Winemaking Home Page
http://winemaking.jackkeller.net/
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Old 07-01-2004, 09:06 AM
Andrew L Drumm
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Default Residual Sugar Detection

You can leave some residual sugar, but it requires extremely good cellar
hygiene. Brettanomyces will grow and produce significant levels of
contaminants in as little as 0.25g/L of sugar (0.025%). Keep your sulphur
levels up (30ppm free SO2 even in a red wine), and make sure you always add
a minimum dose of 10-20ppm SO2, as adding smaller quantities just trains
them to like the stuff!

Cheers,

Andrew

Many thanks to a seminar run by Peter Godden of the AWRI for the above
information.

"Michael Brill" wrote in message
om...
For the first time I just ran some residual sugar tests using
Clinitest and found most of the wines in the 0.25% to 0.5% sugar
range. Some of the wines seem like they have detectable level of
sugar, but I don't know if it's just a taste associated with young
wines. I read on some other posts that these aren't too far out of
whack, but I want to make sure I don't leave very detectable amounts
of sugar. Thoughts?

Also, there appears to be one wine (a syrah) that's at about 1%.
Let's say I wanted to drop that. Can I assume that primary
fermentation is as done as it's going to get by now? If so, I've read
something about killer yeasts that you get started at a reasonable
volume (e.g., 10%) and then add to restart the fermentation. But is
wine at 1% sugar just too low to do anything about?

...Michael



 




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