"Tommy" wrote in message
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Something that is interesting about the science and medical field
especially in the academic departments is the publish or perish clause.
Many things that are published is just to "save their job" and are
really useless. Any study that been done with such few MRI tests is
purly usless,there are not enough data points to make any claim. Enjoy
your brews is my view.\\

Alcohol shrinks brain & no stroke benefits

An interesting study found that low to moderate drinking may cause a
loss of brain tissue in middle-age people. The researchers also found
that such alcohol consumption does not lower the risk of a stroke,
contradicting findings from previous studies:

http://go.jitbot.com/wife-overhit

So much for my daily glass of wine. :-(

-- Sydney

" Ding said researchers cannot make a definitive cause-and-effect link
between drinking and brain atrophy because the MRIs were done only
once during the study and because they found only a small reduction in
tissue."


Clink!



The Alcohol most likely kills off the "weak" brain cells, thus leaving more
room and nutrients for the "strong" brain cells. That's why you suddenly
become an expert on most anything (especially women) after a couple of
bottles of "Big Red!"

Raise your IQ 10 points! No pills to take! Just a bottle or two of
Thunderbird!

Fred

"Sydney" wrote in message ...
Alcohol shrinks brain & no stroke benefits

An interesting study found that low to moderate drinking may cause a loss of
brain tissue in middle-age people.

---snip

I assume we are addressing the alcohol issue here. I don't know how
other feels, but I would be extremely happy if it would be possible to
create great wines without the alcohol effect. It is the taste,
feeling of a "big" wine that I would adore, not the alcohol effect on
my puny brain.

SG Brix

In article ,
(sgbrix) wrote:

"Sydney" wrote in message
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Alcohol shrinks brain & no stroke benefits

An interesting study found that low to moderate drinking may cause a loss of
brain tissue in middle-age people.

---snip

I assume we are addressing the alcohol issue here. I don't know how
other feels, but I would be extremely happy if it would be possible to
create great wines without the alcohol effect. It is the taste,
feeling of a "big" wine that I would adore, not the alcohol effect on
my puny brain.

You can suspend more solid matter in alcohol than in water (that's why
most cooking extracts are alcohol based, as are many liquid medicines).
Unfortunately, a 'wine' containing only water will taste watery.

--
* PAUL K. BRANDON *
* Psychology Dept Minnesota State University *
* 23 Armstrong Hall, Mankato, MN 56001 ph 507-389-6217 *
* http://www.mankato.msus.edu/dept/psych/welcome.html *

They are probably right, "low to moderate drinking may cause a loss of brain
tissue ", therefore you should drink more.

"Sydney" wrote in message
...
Alcohol shrinks brain & no stroke benefits

An interesting study found that low to moderate drinking may cause a loss
of
brain tissue in middle-age people. The researchers also found that such
alcohol consumption does not lower the risk of a stroke, contradicting
findings from previous studies:

http://go.jitbot.com/wife-overhit

So much for my daily glass of wine. :-(

-- Sydney

"Tommy" wrote in message
. 97.132...
Something that is interesting about the science and medical field
especially in the academic departments is the publish or perish clause.
Many things that are published is just to "save their job" and are
really useless. Any study that been done with such few MRI tests is
purly usless,there are not enough data points to make any claim. Enjoy
your brews is my view.\\

Same as I thought - in my words "Bollox" ',;~}~

I have found that squeezing my head with a hydraulic press actually does
make my brain shrink, but I ain't ever gonna stop doing that anyway - life's
too short!

Cheers!

Shaun aRe - Merry bloomin' Christmas!

"Fred Williams" wrote in message
...

The Alcohol most likely kills off the "weak" brain cells, thus leaving
more
room and nutrients for the "strong" brain cells. That's why you suddenly
become an expert on most anything (especially women) after a couple of
bottles of "Big Red!"

LOL! Would that be Franks Big Red?

Raise your IQ 10 points! No pills to take! Just a bottle or two of
Thunderbird!

OMG! Surely you have to already be *brain damaged to go out and buy TB?!?!?

',;~}~

Shaun aRe - *Or 14 years old, or summink.

Alcohol shrinks brain & no stroke benefits

Thank God, my brain was too big anyhow. I'm expecting
confirmation of that very fact again this Christmas.
Seems I'll wake up and it'll feel like my brain is trying
to get out of my head cause it's way too tight in there.

Don

"Sydney" wrote in message ...
Alcohol shrinks brain & no stroke benefits

An interesting study found that low to moderate drinking may cause a loss of
brain tissue in middle-age people. The researchers also found that such
alcohol consumption does not lower the risk of a stroke, contradicting
findings from previous studies:

The graduate students in government subsidized/supported colleges
these days are running out of topics for their ph.d dissertations.

MODERATION IS THE KEY! Your grandmom with no high schooling could
have told you that. For some, half a glass is too much while for
others a bottle is the starting dosage.

FP
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http://go.jitbot.com/wife-overhit

So much for my daily glass of wine. :-(

-- Sydney

Tommy wrote:

Something that is interesting about the science and medical field
especially in the academic departments is the publish or perish
clause. Many things that are published is just to "save their job"
and are really useless.

The "publish or perish" phenomena is more applicable to the physical,
biological, and chemical sciences and not really applicable to the
medical sciences.

You would be surprised at the amount of medical (bench and clinical)
research that is done that never finds it's way to a paper or that
takes several years (3, 4, even 5 years) between data acquisition and
paper submission.

Quite a bit of medical research is, naturally, conducted by MD's who
usually have clinical responsibilities and thus are really not in a
position to "perish" if they don't "publish".

Don't fool yourself about this sort of stuff being "publish or perish". Dig
deep enough and I bet you will find that this is funded research from some
anti-alcohol group. Having been there I know that there is very little
research by professors or graduate students that is not funded by some group
who wants to prove a point.

As far as the moderation being the key, I agree with the concept of
moderation 100% and carry it to an extreme. I am VERY careful to moderate
my moderation!

Ray

"francispoon" wrote in message
om...
"Sydney" wrote in message
...
Alcohol shrinks brain & no stroke benefits

An interesting study found that low to moderate drinking may cause a
loss of
brain tissue in middle-age people. The researchers also found that such
alcohol consumption does not lower the risk of a stroke, contradicting
findings from previous studies:

The graduate students in government subsidized/supported colleges
these days are running out of topics for their ph.d dissertations.

MODERATION IS THE KEY! Your grandmom with no high schooling could
have told you that. For some, half a glass is too much while for
others a bottle is the starting dosage.

FP
=========================================




http://go.jitbot.com/wife-overhit

So much for my daily glass of wine. :-(

-- Sydney

In article , Myo Cardium wrote:
You would be surprised at the amount of medical (bench and clinical)
research that is done that never finds it's way to a paper or that
takes several years (3, 4, even 5 years) between data acquisition and
paper submission.

Quite a bit of medical research is, naturally, conducted by MD's who
usually have clinical responsibilities and thus are really not in a
position to "perish" if they don't "publish".

And since they have little or no research training (that's why med schools
offer dual MD/PhD programs) much of that research is flawed, which is why
it doesn't get published.

--
* PAUL K. BRANDON *
* Psychology Dept Minnesota State University *
* 23 Armstrong Hall, Mankato, MN 56001 ph 507-389-6217 *
* http://www.mankato.msus.edu/dept/psych/welcome.html *

Paul Brandon wrote:

And since they have little or no research training (that's why
med schools offer dual MD/PhD programs) much of that research
is flawed, which is why it doesn't get published.

If a proposed research project was really flawed then most likely it
wouldn't get funded in the first place. The granting process tries to
weed out flawed research before it happens.

Remember that there is a wide spectrum of medical research being
performed. The media mostly focuses on clinical and epidemiological
research (you know, stuff like this food or that food is good/bad for
you, this or that behavior is good/bad for you, etc). You don't hear
a lot about the findings from bench or physiological or
pharmacological or device research (over the heads of most people).

Of course you hear little to nothing about the increasing amount of
research being done by academic labs that are paid for and directed by
pharma and device companies (large companies as well as small
start-ups). Data generated from those studies are used to support FDA
submissions as well as help attract VC financing.