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Ok, the fence is up!



 
 
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Old 09-10-2003, 12:20 AM
Ken Anderson
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Default Ok, the fence is up!

It ain't purdy, but I hope it works. I see a load of deer tracks out there
too, so I can add them to the "Most Wanted" poster too. The end wires you
see aren't taught, but the wires running the length are. They are 6 and 12
inches off the ground. I may have already lost 20% of this row. We shall see
how the fence works! Thanks for the tips, everyone.
http://users.adelphia.net/~aken75/
Ken A.


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Old 09-10-2003, 12:23 AM
Ken Anderson
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Default Ok, the fence is up!

So I don't get busted, I meant "taut." Can I blame the keyboard? : )

"Ken Anderson" wrote in message
et...
It ain't purdy, but I hope it works. I see a load of deer tracks out there
too, so I can add them to the "Most Wanted" poster too. The end wires you
see aren't taught, but the wires running the length are. They are 6 and 12
inches off the ground. I may have already lost 20% of this row. We shall

see
how the fence works! Thanks for the tips, everyone.
http://users.adelphia.net/~aken75/
Ken A.




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Old 09-10-2003, 01:11 AM
Negodki
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Default Ok, the fence is up!

You didn't mention deer before. You may have to run another wire a bit
higher, if they become a problem.

"Ken Anderson" wrote in message
et...
It ain't purdy, but I hope it works. I see a load of deer tracks out there
too, so I can add them to the "Most Wanted" poster too. The end wires you
see aren't taught, but the wires running the length are. They are 6 and 12
inches off the ground. I may have already lost 20% of this row. We shall

see
how the fence works! Thanks for the tips, everyone.
http://users.adelphia.net/~aken75/
Ken A.




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Old 09-10-2003, 02:37 AM
Ken Vale
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Default Ok, the fence is up!

Ken Anderson wrote:

It ain't purdy, but I hope it works. I see a load of deer tracks out there
too, so I can add them to the "Most Wanted" poster too. The end wires you
see aren't taught, but the wires running the length are. They are 6 and 12
inches off the ground. I may have already lost 20% of this row. We shall see
how the fence works! Thanks for the tips, everyone.
http://users.adelphia.net/~aken75/
Ken A.

Here is one of those funny/wierd things that I have heard, deer do
not like the smell of original Irish Spring Soap and will avoid eating
plants near were it is placed. Now not having a garden, I don't know how
accurate it is, but the guy on the gardening radio show seemed to think
it was great.
Ken

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Old 09-10-2003, 02:11 PM
bob
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Default Ok, the fence is up!

Ken,
Don't want to burst your bubble but that ain't gonna work. Been there,
done that and it doesn't work. The little ones jump right between the
wires if the big ones don't jump over it. The fence I have which works
great is a system which uses the fencing you get at homw depot. 7 ft
high. You string 2 wires between 2 posts , one at 7 ft and the other
at ground level. Get "turnbuckles to tighten the two wires and then
"hand the deer fence with plastic ties. You need to brace the end
posts on the inside, 2X4's will do into the ground. It's easy to put
up, it works and if you stain the posts a gray you can barely see it.

Hope this helps.

Good luck.


Bob



"Ken Anderson" wrote in message . net...
It ain't purdy, but I hope it works. I see a load of deer tracks out there
too, so I can add them to the "Most Wanted" poster too. The end wires you
see aren't taught, but the wires running the length are. They are 6 and 12
inches off the ground. I may have already lost 20% of this row. We shall see
how the fence works! Thanks for the tips, everyone.
http://users.adelphia.net/~aken75/
Ken A.

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Old 09-10-2003, 02:13 PM
bob
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Default Ok, the fence is up!

Opps,

"Hang the deer fence from the top wire to the bottom tying at top and
bottom. make sure the wires are tight .


"Ken Anderson" wrote in message . net...
It ain't purdy, but I hope it works. I see a load of deer tracks out there
too, so I can add them to the "Most Wanted" poster too. The end wires you
see aren't taught, but the wires running the length are. They are 6 and 12
inches off the ground. I may have already lost 20% of this row. We shall see
how the fence works! Thanks for the tips, everyone.
http://users.adelphia.net/~aken75/
Ken A.

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Old 09-10-2003, 03:13 PM
Negodki
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"bob" wrote:

Don't want to burst your bubble but that ain't gonna work. Been there,
done that and it doesn't work. The little ones jump right between the
wires if the big ones don't jump over it....


That may well be a problem. If it is, Ken may have to add another wire.

... The fence I have which works
great is a system which uses the fencing you get at homw depot. 7 ft
high. You string 2 wires between 2 posts , one at 7 ft and the other
at ground level. Get "turnbuckles to tighten the two wires and then
"hand the deer fence with plastic ties. You need to brace the end
posts on the inside, 2X4's will do into the ground. It's easy to put
up, it works and if you stain the posts a gray you can barely see it.


That might keep out the deer, but the raccoons will climb right over it. If
you are going to go to those lengths, (which I don't think are necessary),
you may as well use chain link, or "field fence" (which has a fine mesh at
the bottom for small animals, and an increasingly wider mesh as you move to
the top). T-posts are easier to drive, stronger, and more durable than 2x4s.
And they don't require corner braces.



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Old 09-10-2003, 04:22 PM
Ken Anderson
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"bob" wrote in message
om...
Ken,
Don't want to burst your bubble but that ain't gonna work. Been there,
done that and it doesn't work. The little ones jump right between the
wires if the big ones don't jump over it. The fence I have which works
great is a system which uses the fencing you get at homw depot. 7 ft
high. You string 2 wires between 2 posts , one at 7 ft and the other
at ground level. Get "turnbuckles to tighten the two wires and then
"hand the deer fence with plastic ties. You need to brace the end
posts on the inside, 2X4's will do into the ground. It's easy to put
up, it works and if you stain the posts a gray you can barely see it.

Hope this helps.

Good luck.


Bob

I did some more googling before doing the fence thing. I found folks who
claimed the fence works. And, if it's on the internet, it HAS to be true,
right? ; ) At least it only cost me under $30. In the OP picture, to the
right is a row of first year Cab Franc, Riesling and Chard are further over.
Those are Niagaras I'm trying to save this year, but by next year I'm gonna
want to have something effective in place to control critters. There's got
to be a way, or my name's Elmer Fudd.


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Old 09-10-2003, 04:23 PM
Rainer ilgmann
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Hi Ken,
it looks pretty weird. No offence, but this ain't work as you wish.
If you put loose hanging piece of cloth (tags, tatter) to the wires, it
should do.
Do you rember in former times how the reindeers to be kept in the forest?
Same thing here to keep them away.
Keep is informed if you succeed.
Good luck.
Ri


"Ken Anderson" wrote in message
et...
It ain't purdy, but I hope it works. I see a load of deer tracks out there
too, so I can add them to the "Most Wanted" poster too. The end wires you
see aren't taught, but the wires running the length are. They are 6 and 12
inches off the ground. I may have already lost 20% of this row. We shall

see
how the fence works! Thanks for the tips, everyone.
http://users.adelphia.net/~aken75/
Ken A.




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Old 09-10-2003, 06:43 PM
Sean
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Default Ok, the fence is up!

Hi

Maybe I missed something, but is that an electric fence? If it is you
should mark it for people. If it isnt a deer will a)walk over it b)walk
thru it like it wasnt there c) jump over it or d) all of the above.

Deer fence is usually 7 feet high and if you are truly paranoid has a string
of barbed or electric running along the top. Racoons are crafty and will
find a way if they want to and well turkeys will probably stay out but they
are usually dumb enough to find their way in by accident.

I have found that Milorganite works to keep deer away from my gardens and it
makes everything grow nice. But anything we really want to save is in a
"compound" like i described above.

Good Luck!

Sean

"Ken Anderson" wrote in message
et...
It ain't purdy, but I hope it works. I see a load of deer tracks out there
too, so I can add them to the "Most Wanted" poster too. The end wires you
see aren't taught, but the wires running the length are. They are 6 and 12
inches off the ground. I may have already lost 20% of this row. We shall

see
how the fence works! Thanks for the tips, everyone.
http://users.adelphia.net/~aken75/
Ken A.




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Old 09-10-2003, 06:45 PM
Dave Allyn
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Default Ok, the fence is up!

Here is one of those funny/wierd things that I have heard, deer do
not like the smell of original Irish Spring Soap and will avoid eating
plants near were it is placed. Now not having a garden, I don't know how
accurate it is, but the guy on the gardening radio show seemed to think
it was great.


a number of the deer hunters I work with have mentioned something to
that effect. One guy is trying to drive out a rival hunter by
sprinkling it around the other guy's stand. hoping to keep the deer
away from the other guy and over to his. Several other hunters have
agreed that Irish spring will drive deer away like nothing else,
except maybe gasoline. They say that will keep them away too, but is
hard to keep in a spot. Gas is better for a temporary solution, but
Irish spring is good for the long haul.




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Old 09-10-2003, 07:23 PM
SR
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Default Ok, the fence is up!

My vegetable garden was destroyed by Deer this year, so next year I will be
creating a compound like Sean suggests. I am also starting a small vineyard
(24 vines) next spring. Will the deer bother the vines or do they wait
until the fruit appears? Basically, should I fence the vineyard from the
get go.

Thanks


"Sean" wrote in message
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Hi

Maybe I missed something, but is that an electric fence? If it is you
should mark it for people. If it isnt a deer will a)walk over it b)walk
thru it like it wasnt there c) jump over it or d) all of the above.

Deer fence is usually 7 feet high and if you are truly paranoid has a

string
of barbed or electric running along the top. Racoons are crafty and will
find a way if they want to and well turkeys will probably stay out but

they
are usually dumb enough to find their way in by accident.

I have found that Milorganite works to keep deer away from my gardens and

it
makes everything grow nice. But anything we really want to save is in a
"compound" like i described above.

Good Luck!

Sean

"Ken Anderson" wrote in message
et...
It ain't purdy, but I hope it works. I see a load of deer tracks out

there
too, so I can add them to the "Most Wanted" poster too. The end wires

you
see aren't taught, but the wires running the length are. They are 6 and

12
inches off the ground. I may have already lost 20% of this row. We shall

see
how the fence works! Thanks for the tips, everyone.
http://users.adelphia.net/~aken75/
Ken A.






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Old 09-10-2003, 09:42 PM
Bill McCarty
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Default Ok, the fence is up!

Ken I hope this doesn't discourage you, but I suspect that fence
will not discourage deer. Clearing it would present no more problem than
a tip toe through the tulips. I hope I'm wrong and hope your deer are
less agile than those we find in NE Pennsylvania.
Regards, Bill.


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Old 09-10-2003, 11:12 PM
Sean
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Default Ok, the fence is up!

I know in some places if the winter is harsh enough deer will eat twigs and
strip bark...ive heard fruit trees/etc are favourites
I am hoping to buy a new house soon and the new place will be getting 12 new
vines in a nice compound with room for more vines. No messing around from
the start!

Sean





"SR" wrote in message
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My vegetable garden was destroyed by Deer this year, so next year I will

be
creating a compound like Sean suggests. I am also starting a small

vineyard
(24 vines) next spring. Will the deer bother the vines or do they wait
until the fruit appears? Basically, should I fence the vineyard from the
get go.



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Old 09-10-2003, 11:49 PM
Ken Anderson
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Default Ok, the fence is up!

"SR" wrote in message
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My vegetable garden was destroyed by Deer this year, so next year I will

be
creating a compound like Sean suggests. I am also starting a small

vineyard
(24 vines) next spring. Will the deer bother the vines or do they wait
until the fruit appears? Basically, should I fence the vineyard from

the
get go.


Yes, deer will bite the ends off your new vines! I used something called
"Liquid Fence" with good success. Also, if you have Japanese beetle problems
like I do, get an aerosol can of houseplant bug spray and spray your plants
whenever you see beetles. 24 vines will only take a few minutes. Incredibly
handy!
Ken A.


 




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