I have decided to plant a small home vineyard (24 vines) in the spring, so I am starting my planning now. I want to have the site ready to go in March, so before the snow comes (I am in SE PA) I will be breaking up the soil and installing at least the trellis posts.

I have a pretty good spot picked out, but one end of the planting will come close to an existing apple tree. Should I be concerned about this or will the apple tree have no effect on my grapes?

Thanks

"SR" wrote in message
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I have decided to plant a small home vineyard (24 vines) in the spring, so I
am starting my planning now. I want to have the site ready to go in March,
so before the snow comes (I am in SE PA) I will be breaking up the soil and
installing at least the trellis posts.

I have a pretty good spot picked out, but one end of the planting will come
close to an existing apple tree. Should I be concerned about this or will
the apple tree have no effect on my grapes?

Thanks

SHADE from any source is a problem - otherwise, I don't see a problem.
Perhaps others can share opinions or advice.

SR,

I agree with Paul. It's not so much the tree, but its shade that you
need to consider. If it's to the north, no big deal. If it's to the
south, it's a considerable problem. East & west are moderately critical.
I have all four situations between my two little plots, and the northern
trees are by far the least problems. In any case, plant where you need
to, and hope for the best.

Also consider whether the tree attracts deer & other vine munchers.

Luck, Mike MTM

Trees attract birds. Birds like grapes (and tomatoes, as I've discovered).
Also, trees are thirsty creatures, and their roots spread far and wide.
Grape vines are also thirsty creatures, but in a contest between tree and
vine, the tree will win. On the other hand, an ancient method of growing
grapes was to allow the vine to climb and twist about a tree trunk, so it
must depend on the tree.

"MikeMTM" wrote in message
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SR,

I agree with Paul. It's not so much the tree, but its shade that you
need to consider. If it's to the north, no big deal. If it's to the
south, it's a considerable problem. East & west are moderately critical.
I have all four situations between my two little plots, and the northern
trees are by far the least problems. In any case, plant where you need
to, and hope for the best.

Also consider whether the tree attracts deer & other vine munchers.

Luck, Mike MTM

I have to remove a tree on the south corner of my vinyard because of shade,
and mold. The mold follows the precise contours of the shaded area. Also the
ripening on the ends of those affected rows is somewhat behind the rest.
"Negodki" wrote in message
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Trees attract birds. Birds like grapes (and tomatoes, as I've discovered).
Also, trees are thirsty creatures, and their roots spread far and wide.
Grape vines are also thirsty creatures, but in a contest between tree and
vine, the tree will win. On the other hand, an ancient method of growing
grapes was to allow the vine to climb and twist about a tree trunk, so it
must depend on the tree.

"MikeMTM" wrote in message
...
SR,

I agree with Paul. It's not so much the tree, but its shade that you
need to consider. If it's to the north, no big deal. If it's to the
south, it's a considerable problem. East & west are moderately critical.
I have all four situations between my two little plots, and the northern
trees are by far the least problems. In any case, plant where you need
to, and hope for the best.

Also consider whether the tree attracts deer & other vine munchers.

Luck, Mike MTM

I have experienced the same problem mould

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Regards,
Rex Franklin
"Darwin Vander Stelt" wrote in message
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I have to remove a tree on the south corner of my vinyard because of
shade,
and mold. The mold follows the precise contours of the shaded area. Also
the
ripening on the ends of those affected rows is somewhat behind the rest.
"Negodki" wrote in message
...
Trees attract birds. Birds like grapes (and tomatoes, as I've
discovered).
Also, trees are thirsty creatures, and their roots spread far and wide.
Grape vines are also thirsty creatures, but in a contest between tree
and
vine, the tree will win. On the other hand, an ancient method of growing
grapes was to allow the vine to climb and twist about a tree trunk, so
it
must depend on the tree.

"MikeMTM" wrote in message
...
SR,

I agree with Paul. It's not so much the tree, but its shade that you
need to consider. If it's to the north, no big deal. If it's to the
south, it's a considerable problem. East & west are moderately
critical.
I have all four situations between my two little plots, and the
northern
trees are by far the least problems. In any case, plant where you need
to, and hope for the best.

Also consider whether the tree attracts deer & other vine munchers.

Luck, Mike MTM

"SR" wrote in message
...
I have decided to plant a small home vineyard (24 vines) in the spring, so I
am starting my planning now. I want to have the site ready to go in March,
so before the snow comes (I am in SE PA) I will be breaking up the soil and
installing at least the trellis posts.

I have a pretty good spot picked out, but one end of the planting will come
close to an existing apple tree. Should I be concerned about this or will
the apple tree have no effect on my grapes?

I recommend the purchase of "From Vines to Wines"

I too found Vines to Wines quite helpful, but be a little careful about his
"let 'em suffer " philosophy when getting your vines established if you are
in a dry climate. You really need to have a good irrigation system installed
and you need to use it regularly the first couple of years. They may be more
forgiving later.
"Michael" wrote in message
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"SR" wrote in message
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I have decided to plant a small home vineyard (24 vines) in the spring, so
I
am starting my planning now. I want to have the site ready to go in
March,
so before the snow comes (I am in SE PA) I will be breaking up the soil
and
installing at least the trellis posts.

I have a pretty good spot picked out, but one end of the planting will
come
close to an existing apple tree. Should I be concerned about this or will
the apple tree have no effect on my grapes?

I recommend the purchase of "From Vines to Wines"