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Wine press basket - Can one use aluminum



 
 
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Old 28-07-2008, 10:57 PM posted to rec.crafts.winemaking
MrMe
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Default Wine press basket - Can one use aluminum

I have a basket I would like to try to use to press some grapes
but the basket is made of aluminum. Would it cloud the wine ( casse ) or
impart any other problems ?

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Old 29-07-2008, 05:37 AM posted to rec.crafts.winemaking
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Default Wine press basket - Can one use aluminum

On Jul 28, 1:57*pm, MrMe wrote:
* I have a basket I would like to try to use to press some grapes
*but the basket is made of aluminum. Would *it cloud the wine ( casse ) or
*impart any other problems ?


I've never tried using aluminum with wine, since wine (and fruit
juice) is acidic and aluminum is reactive. Don't mix the two.
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Old 29-07-2008, 07:30 AM posted to rec.crafts.winemaking
Luc Volders[_2_]
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Default Wine press basket - Can one use aluminum

The same reason aluminium is not allowed to be sold over here
in kitchen materials like pans etc.

If you want to know how heavily metals can react with acid
take a look at my web-log entry of last year:
http://wijnmaker.blogspot.com/2007/05/roest.html

The entry was still in Dutch (my log is now bilingual)
but I think the picture of the paint-mixer in a bath
of citric acid with sulphite tells all.

Luc
http://www.wijnmaker.blogspot.com/

MrMe wrote:

I have a basket I would like to try to use to press some grapes
but the basket is made of aluminum. Would it cloud the wine ( casse ) or
impart any other problems ?

= Me =


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http://www.wijnmaker.blogspot.com/

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Old 29-07-2008, 05:12 PM posted to rec.crafts.winemaking
Doug Miller
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Default Wine press basket - Can one use aluminum

In article , MrMe wrote:
I have a basket I would like to try to use to press some grapes
but the basket is made of aluminum. Would it cloud the wine ( casse ) or
impart any other problems ?


I sure wouldn't use that. Aluminum dissolves fairly readily in acids. There
are two potential problems from getting it into your wine:
1) altered taste, and probably not for the better
2) toxicity

The only common metal that should *ever* be allowed to come in contact with
acidic foods is stainless steel.
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Old 29-07-2008, 11:56 PM posted to rec.crafts.winemaking
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Default Wine press basket - Can one use aluminum

On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:12:20 +0000, Doug Miller wrote:

In article , MrMe wrote:
I have a basket I would like to try to use to press some grapes
but the basket is made of aluminum. Would it cloud the wine ( casse ) or
impart any other problems ?


I sure wouldn't use that. Aluminum dissolves fairly readily in acids. There
are two potential problems from getting it into your wine:
1) altered taste, and probably not for the better
2) toxicity

The only common metal that should *ever* be allowed to come in contact with
acidic foods is stainless steel.


I really didn't think it a good idea, but wanted to know for sure.
Thanks for the info.

As it is, I made a basket by drilling 1/4" holes in a plastic 5 gal.
pail. It did the job well enough.

Thanx

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Old 30-07-2008, 11:11 PM posted to rec.crafts.winemaking
MrMe
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Default Wine press basket - Can one use aluminum

On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 20:37:56 -0700, Madalch wrote:

On Jul 28, 1:57*pm, MrMe wrote:
* I have a basket I would like to try to use to press some grapes
*but the basket is made of aluminum. Would *it cloud the wine ( casse ) or
*impart any other problems ?


I've never tried using aluminum with wine, since wine (and fruit
juice) is acidic and aluminum is reactive. Don't mix the two.



Gotcha... Thank you.

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Old 01-08-2008, 07:37 PM posted to rec.crafts.winemaking
Doug Miller
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Default Wine press basket - Can one use aluminum

In article , MrMe wrote:
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 15:12:20 +0000, Doug Miller wrote:

In article , MrMe

wrote:
I have a basket I would like to try to use to press some grapes
but the basket is made of aluminum. Would it cloud the wine ( casse ) or
impart any other problems ?


I sure wouldn't use that. Aluminum dissolves fairly readily in acids. There
are two potential problems from getting it into your wine:
1) altered taste, and probably not for the better
2) toxicity

The only common metal that should *ever* be allowed to come in contact with
acidic foods is stainless steel.


I really didn't think it a good idea, but wanted to know for sure.
Thanks for the info.


You're welcome. The recommendation to use only stainless steel for food
contact comes from a friend who is a PhD biochemist specializing in food
chemistry. Back when we had milk goats, she advised us against using copper
tubing to make a chiller for the milk -- seems that even milk is acidic enough
to dissolve enough copper to pose a health risk. Now consider that wine is
waaaaaay more acidic than milk....

BTW -- ever cook spaghetti sauce, or anything else containing tomatos, in an
aluminum pan? That's a mistake you won't make twice. There's a distinct, and
unpleasant, metallic flavor to it.

As it is, I made a basket by drilling 1/4" holes in a plastic 5 gal.
pail. It did the job well enough.


Works great, I'll bet!
 




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