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Has it gone bad, and how does one know?



 
 
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Old 16-05-2008, 04:53 AM posted to rec.crafts.winemaking
Desertphile[_2_]
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Default Has it gone bad, and how does one know?

Alas, I am sure this may be a "stupid question," but I am not
educated enough on the subject of making wine to know if it is
even a valid question or not, let alone know the answer.

In October I started my first batch of wine, using Concorde Grape
juice. All went well as far as I could tell: fermentation was
robust and protracted, and eventually it ceased after a month or
so. I have kept the air lock on, and it has sat still ever since
after one racking at the end of October.

Now I wish to know--- how does one know if the wine is good or
bad? That is, how does one know if it has turned to vinegar? I
have no idea what it is supposed to taste like. I can tell it is
alcoholic, and that all of the sugar is gone (it is "dry" as far
as I can tell), though I do not know the alcohol content (I broke
my hydrometer in October) nor do I know if it tastes the way it
should.

I will probably bottle it in a day or two and take a sample to the
"Yeast Herder's Gatherum" at Dragonfest in August and ask someone
to taste it for me.

I followed what I believe to be the correct steps, as I have
outlined in my two videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZWyYeDQnUk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJPhkDwIZro


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Old 16-05-2008, 07:34 AM posted to rec.crafts.winemaking
Madalch
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Default Has it gone bad, and how does one know?

On May 15, 7:53*pm, Desertphile
wrote:
nor do I know if it tastes the way it should.


Simple answer- do you like the way it tastes? If you do, then it
probably tastes the way it should.

If it was vinegar, it would be obvious to the taste.
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Old 19-05-2008, 02:06 AM posted to rec.crafts.winemaking
spineemike
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On May 15, 10:53*pm, Desertphile
wrote:
Alas, I am sure this may be a "stupid question," but I am not
educated enough on the subject of making wine to know if it is
even a valid question or not, let alone know the answer.

In October I started my first batch of wine, using Concorde Grape
juice. All went well as far as I could tell: fermentation was
robust and protracted, and eventually it ceased after a month or
so. I have kept the air lock on, and it has sat still ever since
after one racking at the end of October.

Now I wish to know--- how does one know if the wine is good or
bad? That is, how does one know if it has turned to vinegar? I
have no idea what it is supposed to taste like. I can tell it is
alcoholic, and that all of the sugar is gone (it is "dry" as far
as I can tell), though I do not know the alcohol content (I broke
my hydrometer in October) nor do I know if it tastes the way it
should.

I will probably bottle it in a day or two and take a sample to the
"Yeast Herder's Gatherum" at Dragonfest in August and ask someone
to taste it for me.

I followed what I believe to be the correct steps, as I have
outlined in my two videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZWyY...?v=tJPhkDwIZro

--http://desertphile.org
Desertphile's Desert Soliloquy. WARNING: view with plenty of water
"Why aren't resurrections from the dead noteworthy?" -- Jim Rutz


Is it drinkable? Do YOU like it?
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Old 19-05-2008, 02:21 PM posted to rec.crafts.winemaking
doublesb@hotmail.com
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Default Has it gone bad, and how does one know?

Go buy a bottle of concord wine at the wine store. Manashevitz is a
well known one. Compare the two.

Desertphile wrote:
Alas, I am sure this may be a "stupid question," but I am not
educated enough on the subject of making wine to know if it is
even a valid question or not, let alone know the answer.

In October I started my first batch of wine, using Concorde Grape
juice. All went well as far as I could tell: fermentation was
robust and protracted, and eventually it ceased after a month or
so. I have kept the air lock on, and it has sat still ever since
after one racking at the end of October.

Now I wish to know--- how does one know if the wine is good or
bad? That is, how does one know if it has turned to vinegar? I
have no idea what it is supposed to taste like. I can tell it is
alcoholic, and that all of the sugar is gone (it is "dry" as far
as I can tell), though I do not know the alcohol content (I broke
my hydrometer in October) nor do I know if it tastes the way it
should.

I will probably bottle it in a day or two and take a sample to the
"Yeast Herder's Gatherum" at Dragonfest in August and ask someone
to taste it for me.

I followed what I believe to be the correct steps, as I have
outlined in my two videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZWyYeDQnUk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJPhkDwIZro


--
http://desertphile.org
Desertphile's Desert Soliloquy. WARNING: view with plenty of water
"Why aren't resurrections from the dead noteworthy?" -- Jim Rutz

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Old 19-05-2008, 11:08 PM posted to rec.crafts.winemaking
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Default Has it gone bad, and how does one know?

On May 19, 8:21*am, wrote:
Go buy a bottle of concord wine at the wine store. Manashevitz is a
well known one. Compare the two.



Desertphile wrote:
Alas, I am sure this may be a "stupid question," but I am not
educated enough on the subject of making wine to know if it is
even a valid question or not, let alone know the answer.


In October I started my first batch of wine, using Concorde Grape
juice. All went well as far as I could tell: fermentation was
robust and protracted, and eventually it ceased after a month or
so. I have kept the air lock on, and it has sat still ever since
after one racking at the end of October.


Now I wish to know--- how does one know if the wine is good or
bad? That is, how does one know if it has turned to vinegar? I
have no idea what it is supposed to taste like. I can tell it is
alcoholic, and that all of the sugar is gone (it is "dry" as far
as I can tell), though I do not know the alcohol content (I broke
my hydrometer in October) nor do I know if it tastes the way it
should.


I will probably bottle it in a day or two and take a sample to the
"Yeast Herder's Gatherum" at Dragonfest in August and ask someone
to taste it for me.


I followed what I believe to be the correct steps, as I have
outlined in my two videos:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZWyYeDQnUk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJPhkDwIZro


--
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Dry Concord wine is an aquired taste that I will never aquire. It's
just not typical; normally Concord is sweetened to taste. I doubt it
is bad, if it smells grapey it's probably fine.

Joe
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Old 23-05-2008, 05:14 AM posted to rec.crafts.winemaking
Desertphile[_2_]
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Default Has it gone bad, and how does one know?

On Mon, 19 May 2008 05:21:30 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Go buy a bottle of concord wine at the wine store. Manashevitz is a
well known one. Compare the two.


That is a great idea.... why didn't I think of that? I do not
recall ever seeing Concord wine in stores, but surely it's there
if I look for it. Thank you.


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Old 23-05-2008, 05:14 AM posted to rec.crafts.winemaking
Desertphile[_2_]
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Default Has it gone bad, and how does one know?

On Mon, 19 May 2008 14:08:38 -0700 (PDT), Joe Sallustio
wrote:


Dry Concord wine is an aquired taste that I will never aquire. It's
just not typical; normally Concord is sweetened to taste. I doubt it
is bad, if it smells grapey it's probably fine.


Unfortunately I didn't know what I was doing when I made it--- I
was supposed to add sugar; otch, well.... perhaps I'll make
another batch. I must buy another hydrometer. Thank you for the
reply.

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