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Old 31-03-2008, 12:34 AM posted to rec.crafts.winemaking
Tater
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Default need a cheap filter

My plums do not look like they are clearing, even though every time I
rack there is sediment. in looking at filters I see that the cheapest
looks exactly like a water filter. is this true? other filters seem
too expensive. plum has been settling for about 6 months and is still
thick as mud
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Old 31-03-2008, 04:17 AM posted to rec.crafts.winemaking
Lum Eisenman[_2_]
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Default need a cheap filter


"Tater" wrote in message
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My plums do not look like they are clearing, even though every time I
rack there is sediment. in looking at filters I see that the cheapest
looks exactly like a water filter. is this true? other filters seem
too expensive. plum has been settling for about 6 months and is still
thick as mud


Tater,
You can buy most of the equipment you need to filter your plum wine at Home
Depot. More info here
http://www.geocities.com/lumeisenman/chapt16.html
Lum

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Old 02-04-2008, 10:11 PM posted to rec.crafts.winemaking
Doug[_1_]
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On Mar 30, 6:34*pm, Tater wrote:
My plums do not look like they are clearing, even though every time I
rack there is sediment. in looking at filters I see that the cheapest
looks exactly like a water filter. is this true? other filters seem
too expensive. plum has been settling for about 6 months and is still
thick as mud


Tater -
Not to discourage you from making your own filter, but if this
wine is still "thick as mud", a filter really isn't the answer.
Unless the wine is reasonably clear, trying to run it through a filter
will just clog up the filter and make a mess.

The primary ingredient needed for clearing wine is patience. At six
months, though, you ought to be seeing reasonable progress. If you
did not use any pectic enzyme earlier in the process, that would be a
good thing to try. If that doesn't help, I'd recommend either
bentonite or the hot-mix Sparkalloid. Both of those are pretty mild
in terms of their effect on the wine (from what I've read, anyway).
As a last resort, try a package of Super-Kleer. Try one thing at a
time, and give it two weeks or more to see if it's having any effect.
If you can't see any change in two weeks, try the next one.

Doug
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Old 04-04-2008, 12:25 AM posted to rec.crafts.winemaking
Tater
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Default need a cheap filter

On Apr 2, 4:11*pm, Doug wrote:
On Mar 30, 6:34*pm, Tater wrote:

My plums do not look like they are clearing, even though every time I
rack there is sediment. in looking at filters I see that the cheapest
looks exactly like a water filter. is this true? other filters seem
too expensive. plum has been settling for about 6 months and is still
thick as mud


Tater -
* * Not to discourage you from making your own filter, but if this
wine is still "thick as mud", a filter really isn't the answer.
Unless the wine is reasonably clear, trying to run it through a filter
will just clog up the filter and make a mess.

The primary ingredient needed for clearing wine is patience. *At six
months, though, you ought to be seeing reasonable progress. *If you
did not use any pectic enzyme earlier in the process, that would be a
good thing to try. *If that doesn't help, I'd recommend either
bentonite or the hot-mix Sparkalloid. *Both of those are pretty mild
in terms of their effect on the wine (from what I've read, anyway).
As a last resort, try a package of Super-Kleer. *Try one thing at a
time, and give it two weeks or more to see if it's having any effect.
If you can't see any change in two weeks, try the next one.

Doug


well "thick as mud" isn't a clearly defined technical term. but i
think i'll be getting a cheap filter setup together in the comming
months. I did add peptic enzyme at the beginning, but did not know it
was meant for clearing(aside from haze) I got some sparkaloid and
might give that a try after i do some gross filtering. I was thinking
of running it thru a 50 micron and then maybe a 20-25 micron to see if
there is improvement. with that large a size, I'd guess that i wouldnt
have too much problem with clogging, the earlier rackings did have
quite a bit of sediment, but it looks like I have something that wont
settle with just gravity. the past 4 rackings there has not been a
noticeable change in clarity, or lack of.
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Old 06-04-2008, 06:04 PM posted to rec.crafts.winemaking
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Default need a cheap filter


"Tater" wrote in message
...
On Apr 2, 4:11 pm, Doug wrote:
On Mar 30, 6:34 pm, Tater wrote:

My plums do not look like they are clearing, even though every time I
rack there is sediment. in looking at filters I see that the cheapest
looks exactly like a water filter. is this true? other filters seem
too expensive. plum has been settling for about 6 months and is still
thick as mud


Tater -
Not to discourage you from making your own filter, but if this
wine is still "thick as mud", a filter really isn't the answer.
Unless the wine is reasonably clear, trying to run it through a filter
will just clog up the filter and make a mess.

The primary ingredient needed for clearing wine is patience. At six
months, though, you ought to be seeing reasonable progress. If you
did not use any pectic enzyme earlier in the process, that would be a
good thing to try. If that doesn't help, I'd recommend either
bentonite or the hot-mix Sparkalloid. Both of those are pretty mild
in terms of their effect on the wine (from what I've read, anyway).
As a last resort, try a package of Super-Kleer. Try one thing at a
time, and give it two weeks or more to see if it's having any effect.
If you can't see any change in two weeks, try the next one.

Doug


well "thick as mud" isn't a clearly defined technical term. but i
think i'll be getting a cheap filter setup together in the comming
months. I did add peptic enzyme at the beginning, but did not know it
was meant for clearing(aside from haze) I got some sparkaloid and
might give that a try after i do some gross filtering. I was thinking
of running it thru a 50 micron and then maybe a 20-25 micron to see if
there is improvement. with that large a size, I'd guess that i wouldnt
have too much problem with clogging, the earlier rackings did have
quite a bit of sediment, but it looks like I have something that wont
settle with just gravity. the past 4 rackings there has not been a
noticeable change in clarity, or lack of.

Why not just get a mini jet filter system, they're pretty cheap and work
awesome.


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Old 06-04-2008, 06:04 PM posted to rec.crafts.winemaking
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Default need a cheap filter


"Dirty Harry" wrote in message
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"Tater" wrote in message
...
On Apr 2, 4:11 pm, Doug wrote:
On Mar 30, 6:34 pm, Tater wrote:

My plums do not look like they are clearing, even though every time I
rack there is sediment. in looking at filters I see that the cheapest
looks exactly like a water filter. is this true? other filters seem
too expensive. plum has been settling for about 6 months and is still
thick as mud


Tater -
Not to discourage you from making your own filter, but if this
wine is still "thick as mud", a filter really isn't the answer.
Unless the wine is reasonably clear, trying to run it through a filter
will just clog up the filter and make a mess.

The primary ingredient needed for clearing wine is patience. At six
months, though, you ought to be seeing reasonable progress. If you
did not use any pectic enzyme earlier in the process, that would be a
good thing to try. If that doesn't help, I'd recommend either
bentonite or the hot-mix Sparkalloid. Both of those are pretty mild
in terms of their effect on the wine (from what I've read, anyway).
As a last resort, try a package of Super-Kleer. Try one thing at a
time, and give it two weeks or more to see if it's having any effect.
If you can't see any change in two weeks, try the next one.

Doug


well "thick as mud" isn't a clearly defined technical term. but i
think i'll be getting a cheap filter setup together in the comming
months. I did add peptic enzyme at the beginning, but did not know it
was meant for clearing(aside from haze) I got some sparkaloid and
might give that a try after i do some gross filtering. I was thinking
of running it thru a 50 micron and then maybe a 20-25 micron to see if
there is improvement. with that large a size, I'd guess that i wouldnt
have too much problem with clogging, the earlier rackings did have
quite a bit of sediment, but it looks like I have something that wont
settle with just gravity. the past 4 rackings there has not been a
noticeable change in clarity, or lack of.

Why not just get a mini jet filter system, they're pretty cheap and work
awesome.


One of these http://www.brewerylane.com/buonvino.html


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Old 08-04-2008, 12:22 AM posted to rec.crafts.winemaking
Tater
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Default need a cheap filter

On Apr 6, 12:04*pm, "Dirty Harry" wrote:

Why not just get a mini jet filter system, they're pretty cheap and work
awesome.


ummm, the subject line says it all. mini jets are not what i'd call
cheap. $25 would be cheap. $50 is close to cheap. $150+ is not.
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Old 09-04-2008, 11:18 PM posted to rec.crafts.winemaking
Joe Sallustio
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On Apr 7, 7:22*pm, Tater wrote:
On Apr 6, 12:04*pm, "Dirty Harry" wrote:



Why not just get a mini jet filter system, they're pretty cheap and work
awesome.


ummm, the subject line says it *all. mini jets are not what i'd call
cheap. $25 would be cheap. $50 is close to cheap. $150+ is not.


Tater, do you already have the pump? Housings and a decent vane pump
will get up to $150 pretty quick. If you are looking for small
quantiities of filtering like 10 gallons at a time the mini jet is
cheap to use if you can get one used. The pump is crap but works. I
have one and it was worth the $100 I paid. I bought it from Canada
back when the dollar was high there. The filters are a couple buck
per 10 gallons.

Joe
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Old 14-04-2008, 03:47 AM posted to rec.crafts.winemaking
Tater
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Default need a cheap filter

On Apr 9, 5:18*pm, Joe Sallustio wrote:
On Apr 7, 7:22*pm, Tater wrote:

On Apr 6, 12:04*pm, "Dirty Harry" wrote:


Why not just get a mini jet filter system, they're pretty cheap and work
awesome.


ummm, the subject line says it *all. mini jets are not what i'd call
cheap. $25 would be cheap. $50 is close to cheap. $150+ is not.


Tater, do you already have the pump? *Housings and a decent vane pump
will get up to $150 pretty quick. *If you are looking for small
quantiities of filtering like 10 gallons at a time *the mini jet is
cheap to use if you can get one used. *The pump is crap but works. * I
have one and it was worth the $100 I paid. *I bought it from Canada
back when the dollar was high there. *The filters are a couple buck
per 10 gallons.

Joe


I currently have collected the parts for the water cartridge filter
setup, and passed my wine thru a 50 micron filter. everything worked
correctly, except that 50 micron was too big. i'll be picking up the
next smaller filter and see if that clears it up.

I was planning on posting some pics on the setup wghen i had it
running, but was also cooking out bratwursts at the same time and
wanted to deal with that. I think the total was all under $30. even if
it doesnt work, i can use the filter for water filtration.
 




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