Here's a link to a website with a lot of excellent advice about making
elderberry wines:

http://www.geocities.com/wvmountaine...erberries.html


Paul

On Mar 23, 10:28 am, "Pavel314" wrote:
Here's a link to a website with a lot of excellent advice about making
elderberry wines:

http://www.geocities.com/wvmountaine...s/Elderberries....

Paul

I thought elderberries were smelly. I remember from the movie Monty
Python's Holy Grail, "Your mother was a hamster, and your
father ....smelt ...of elderberries."

I know that is not an intelligent comment.

"ebrad" wrote in message
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On Mar 23, 10:28 am, "Pavel314" wrote:
Here's a link to a website with a lot of excellent advice about making
elderberry wines:

http://www.geocities.com/wvmountaine...s/Elderberries....

Paul

I thought elderberries were smelly. I remember from the movie Monty
Python's Holy Grail, "Your mother was a hamster, and your
father ....smelt ...of elderberries."

I know that is not an intelligent comment.

I always wondered about that reference. Maybe it a reference that dad was
into the elderberry wine too frequently? I use elderberries to improve my
Concord grape wine; 20% elderberries adds a lot of complexity and depth to
the taste and tones down the foxiness. I also make a melomel with
elderberries and honey, which I call Dragon's Blood because of the deep
color.

Paul

On Mar 25, 6:36*pm, "Pavel314" wrote:
"ebrad" wrote in message

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On Mar 23, 10:28 am, "Pavel314" wrote:
Here's a link to a website with a lot of excellent advice about making
elderberry wines:

http://www.geocities.com/wvmountaine...s/Elderberries....

Paul

I thought elderberries were smelly. *I remember from the movie Monty
Python's Holy Grail, "Your mother was a hamster, and your
father ....smelt ...of elderberries."

I know that is not an intelligent comment.

I always wondered about that reference. Maybe it a reference that dad was
into the elderberry wine too frequently? I use elderberries to improve my
Concord grape wine; 20% elderberries adds a lot of complexity and depth to
the taste and tones down the foxiness. I also make a melomel with
elderberries and honey, which I call Dragon's Blood because of the deep
color.

Paul

I have never heard of a wine described as Foxy. That's great.

On 3/26/2008 8:48 AM, Wayne Harris wrote:
On Mar 25, 6:36 pm, "Pavel314" wrote:
"ebrad" wrote in message

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On Mar 23, 10:28 am, "Pavel314" wrote:
Here's a link to a website with a lot of excellent advice about making
elderberry wines:
http://www.geocities.com/wvmountaine...s/Elderberries....
Paul
I thought elderberries were smelly. I remember from the movie Monty
Python's Holy Grail, "Your mother was a hamster, and your
father ....smelt ...of elderberries."
I know that is not an intelligent comment.
I always wondered about that reference. Maybe it a reference that dad was
into the elderberry wine too frequently? I use elderberries to improve my
Concord grape wine; 20% elderberries adds a lot of complexity and depth to
the taste and tones down the foxiness. I also make a melomel with
elderberries and honey, which I call Dragon's Blood because of the deep
color.

Paul

I have never heard of a wine described as Foxy. That's great.

'Foxy' is a descriptor of wines which taste strongly of the grape
source, especially Concord. It is not a complement, although these
wines can be very tasty.


Cheers,
Ken

On Mar 27, 9:16*am, mail box wrote:
On 3/26/2008 8:48 AM, Wayne Harris wrote:



On Mar 25, 6:36 pm, "Pavel314" wrote:
"ebrad" wrote in message

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On Mar 23, 10:28 am, "Pavel314" wrote:
Here's a link to a website with a lot of excellent advice about making
elderberry wines:
http://www.geocities.com/wvmountaine...s/Elderberries.....
Paul
I thought elderberries were smelly. *I remember from the movie Monty
Python's Holy Grail, "Your mother was a hamster, and your
father ....smelt ...of elderberries."
I know that is not an intelligent comment.
I always wondered about that reference. Maybe it a reference that dad was
into the elderberry wine too frequently? I use elderberries to improve my
Concord grape wine; 20% elderberries adds a lot of complexity and depth to
the taste and tones down the foxiness. I also make a melomel with
elderberries and honey, which I call Dragon's Blood because of the deep
color.

Paul

I have never heard of a wine described as Foxy. * That's great. *

'Foxy' is a descriptor of wines which taste strongly of the grape
source, especially Concord. *It is not a complement, although these
wines can be very tasty.

Cheers,
Ken

I thought it was particular to grapes which add a musty - bordering on
skunky smell to the wine. A partial note of fox scent or marking.

Either way, I find it weird in a wine. Concord being my example.
Gets better with aging though...

Jim

Pavel314 wrote:
"ebrad" wrote in message
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On Mar 23, 10:28 am, "Pavel314" wrote:
Here's a link to a website with a lot of excellent advice about making
elderberry wines:

http://www.geocities.com/wvmountaine...s/Elderberries....

Paul
I thought elderberries were smelly. I remember from the movie Monty
Python's Holy Grail, "Your mother was a hamster, and your
father ....smelt ...of elderberries."

I know that is not an intelligent comment.

I always wondered about that reference. Maybe it a reference that dad was
into the elderberry wine too frequently? I use elderberries to improve my
Concord grape wine; 20% elderberries adds a lot of complexity and depth to
the taste and tones down the foxiness. I also make a melomel with
elderberries and honey, which I call Dragon's Blood because of the deep
color.

Paul


I always thought it was a high falutin' way of saying his father was a
drunk!

Picked 20lbs of elderberries along the roads around here last year and
made five gallons of decent wine, btw. But cleaning them is a PITA!

Ryan

Ryan Case wrote:
Pavel314 wrote:
"ebrad" wrote in message
...
On Mar 23, 10:28 am, "Pavel314" wrote:
Here's a link to a website with a lot of excellent advice about making
elderberry wines:

http://www.geocities.com/wvmountaine...s/Elderberries....


Paul
I thought elderberries were smelly. I remember from the movie Monty
Python's Holy Grail, "Your mother was a hamster, and your
father ....smelt ...of elderberries."

I know that is not an intelligent comment.

I always wondered about that reference. Maybe it a reference that dad
was into the elderberry wine too frequently? I use elderberries to
improve my Concord grape wine; 20% elderberries adds a lot of
complexity and depth to the taste and tones down the foxiness. I also
make a melomel with elderberries and honey, which I call Dragon's
Blood because of the deep color.

Paul

I always thought it was a high falutin' way of saying his father was a
drunk!

Picked 20lbs of elderberries along the roads around here last year and
made five gallons of decent wine, btw. But cleaning them is a PITA!

Ryan
Elderberry wine was once well known as an old ladies drink.

"Bill" wrote in message
m...
Ryan Case wrote:
Pavel314 wrote:
"ebrad" wrote in message
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On Mar 23, 10:28 am, "Pavel314" wrote:
Here's a link to a website with a lot of excellent advice about making
elderberry wines:

http://www.geocities.com/wvmountaine...s/Elderberries....

Paul
I thought elderberries were smelly. I remember from the movie Monty
Python's Holy Grail, "Your mother was a hamster, and your
father ....smelt ...of elderberries."

I know that is not an intelligent comment.

I always wondered about that reference. Maybe it a reference that dad
was into the elderberry wine too frequently? I use elderberries to
improve my Concord grape wine; 20% elderberries adds a lot of complexity
and depth to the taste and tones down the foxiness. I also make a
melomel with elderberries and honey, which I call Dragon's Blood because
of the deep color.

Paul

I always thought it was a high falutin' way of saying his father was a
drunk!

Picked 20lbs of elderberries along the roads around here last year and
made five gallons of decent wine, btw. But cleaning them is a PITA!

Ryan
Elderberry wine was once well known as an old ladies drink.

In the very funny play "Arsenic and Old Lace" two little old ladies use
poisoned elderberry wine to put lonely men out of their misery.

Paul

"Ryan Case" wrote in message
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Pavel314 wrote:
"ebrad" wrote in message
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On Mar 23, 10:28 am, "Pavel314" wrote:
Here's a link to a website with a lot of excellent advice about making
elderberry wines:

http://www.geocities.com/wvmountaine...s/Elderberries....

Paul
I thought elderberries were smelly. I remember from the movie Monty
Python's Holy Grail, "Your mother was a hamster, and your
father ....smelt ...of elderberries."

I know that is not an intelligent comment.

I always wondered about that reference. Maybe it a reference that dad was
into the elderberry wine too frequently? I use elderberries to improve my
Concord grape wine; 20% elderberries adds a lot of complexity and depth
to the taste and tones down the foxiness. I also make a melomel with
elderberries and honey, which I call Dragon's Blood because of the deep
color.

Paul
I always thought it was a high falutin' way of saying his father was a
drunk!

Picked 20lbs of elderberries along the roads around here last year and
made five gallons of decent wine, btw. But cleaning them is a PITA!

Ryan

Over my first several years of picking elderberries I tried different
methods to speed up the cleaning process. My comb-and-hardware-cloth method
works fairly well; it's described at:

http://home.comcast.net/~rbfarm/eldrpick.html

Also, check the Cracked Cork website I referenced above; they have a page on
harvesting and cleaning techniques.

I just ordered some elderberries from Raintree Nurseries, on variety with
golden berries and the other with powder blue berries. Details at:

http://www.raintreenursery.com/catal...ducttype=ELDER

Paul

On Mar 27, 10:15 pm, Ryan Case wrote:
Pavel314 wrote:
"ebrad" wrote in message
...
On Mar 23, 10:28 am, "Pavel314" wrote:
Here's a link to a website with a lot of excellent advice about making
elderberry wines:

http://www.geocities.com/wvmountaine...s/Elderberries....

Paul
I thought elderberries were smelly. I remember from the movie Monty
Python's Holy Grail, "Your mother was a hamster, and your
father ....smelt ...of elderberries."

I know that is not an intelligent comment.

I always wondered about that reference. Maybe it a reference that dad was
into the elderberry wine too frequently? I use elderberries to improve my
Concord grape wine; 20% elderberries adds a lot of complexity and depth to
the taste and tones down the foxiness. I also make a melomel with
elderberries and honey, which I call Dragon's Blood because of the deep
color.

Paul

I always thought it was a high falutin' way of saying his father was a
drunk!

Picked 20lbs of elderberries along the roads around here last year and
made five gallons of decent wine, btw. But cleaning them is a PITA!

Ryan

Ah ha! Wikipedia says,

"The berries are a very valuable food resource for many birds....The
crushed foliage and immature fruit have a strong fetid smell."

Last year I wrote a web-log entry about elderberries
which drew a lot of attention.

The method I use is as follows:

Pick the berries and pour then into a bucket with water.
The ripe ones will have sugar and therefore submerge.
The unripe ones are lighter and will float.

Look for photos on my web-log:
http://wijnmaker.blogspot.com/2007/0...on-ik-had.html

There was a lot of contravery about me saying to boil
the berries.
Elderberries have sambunigrin which may cause a lot of trouble
so I will always boil them.

Me port-style recipe is also on the same web-log page.

Besides all this:
I make about 20 to 30 batches every year from differet fruit
and ederberry wine is still the best.

luc
Over my first several years of picking elderberries I tried different
methods to speed up the cleaning process. My comb-and-hardware-cloth
method works fairly well; it's described at:

http://home.comcast.net/~rbfarm/eldrpick.html

Also, check the Cracked Cork website I referenced above; they have a page
on harvesting and cleaning techniques.

I just ordered some elderberries from Raintree Nurseries, on variety with
golden berries and the other with powder blue berries. Details at:

http://www.raintreenursery.com/catal...ducttype=ELDER

Paul

--
http://www.wijnmaker.blogspot.com/

"ebrad" wrote in message
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On Mar 27, 10:15 pm, Ryan Case wrote:
Pavel314 wrote:
"ebrad" wrote in message
...
On Mar 23, 10:28 am, "Pavel314" wrote:
Here's a link to a website with a lot of excellent advice about
making
elderberry wines:

http://www.geocities.com/wvmountaine...s/Elderberries....

Paul
I thought elderberries were smelly. I remember from the movie Monty
Python's Holy Grail, "Your mother was a hamster, and your
father ....smelt ...of elderberries."

I know that is not an intelligent comment.

I always wondered about that reference. Maybe it a reference that dad
was
into the elderberry wine too frequently? I use elderberries to improve
my
Concord grape wine; 20% elderberries adds a lot of complexity and depth
to
the taste and tones down the foxiness. I also make a melomel with
elderberries and honey, which I call Dragon's Blood because of the deep
color.

Paul

I always thought it was a high falutin' way of saying his father was a
drunk!

Picked 20lbs of elderberries along the roads around here last year and
made five gallons of decent wine, btw. But cleaning them is a PITA!

Ryan

Ah ha! Wikipedia says,

"The berries are a very valuable food resource for many birds....The
crushed foliage and immature fruit have a strong fetid smell."

But who would be so cruel as to crush a baby elderberry?

"Luc Volders" wrote in message
...
Last year I wrote a web-log entry about elderberries
which drew a lot of attention.

The method I use is as follows:

Pick the berries and pour then into a bucket with water.
The ripe ones will have sugar and therefore submerge.
The unripe ones are lighter and will float.

Look for photos on my web-log:
http://wijnmaker.blogspot.com/2007/0...on-ik-had.html

There was a lot of contravery about me saying to boil
the berries.
Elderberries have sambunigrin which may cause a lot of trouble
so I will always boil them.

Me port-style recipe is also on the same web-log page.

Besides all this:
I make about 20 to 30 batches every year from differet fruit
and ederberry wine is still the best.

luc


Luc,

Very nice website, thanks for the reference. I see you make rose wine; I
make mead flavored with rose petals, about one quart of fresh petals per
gallon of must.

Paul

Pavel314 wrote:


"Luc Volders" wrote in
message

...
Last year I wrote a web-log entry about
elderberries which drew a lot of attention.

The method I use is as follows:

Pick the berries and pour then into a bucket
with water. The ripe ones will have sugar and
therefore submerge. The unripe ones are lighter
and will float.

Look for photos on my web-log:

http://wijnmaker.blogspot.com/2007/0...on-ik-had.html

There was a lot of contravery about me saying
to boil the berries.
Elderberries have sambunigrin which may cause a
lot of trouble so I will always boil them.

Me port-style recipe is also on the same
web-log page.

Besides all this:
I make about 20 to 30 batches every year from
differet fruit and ederberry wine is still the
best.

luc


Luc,

Very nice website, thanks for the reference. I
see you make rose wine; I make mead flavored
with rose petals, about one quart of fresh
petals per gallon of must.

Paul

I have some rose petals in the freezer from last
year. Have you ever made mead with rose petals
stored in this manner?