So I have a crushendo brewing. The corvino. Literature I found on the
web had the balls to suggest it would keep improving for up to a
decade. I'm up for the challenge, but I am not sure my local corks
are.

So, mentors, the question is, what cork would you put in a bottle of
wine you planned to lay down for a decade, why, and where do you get
them?

(I am a learner)

Sean

The oldest bottle of wine (made with Spanish concentrate) I have kept is 7
years.
At the time, I had used premium corks obtained at Wine Art store in Canada.
The end result was good but not super excellent.
Now I am looking for screw top bottle or a good synthetic cork.

At this time, the quality of cork is not what it use to be. The same old
Oak trees have been harvested for too long and the quality has deteriorated

Your question can not be answered correctly until a new synthetic cork has
been proven with time.
While waiting for an proven synthetic cork many top wineries are using screw
top bottles

Check: http://www.corksupplyusa.com/natural-corks-quality.htm#
The insidious problem with cork mould is that it is not practical to detect
it before bottling at the winery. Once the afflicted cork is rammed into the
bottle and becomes wet, the mould grows and taints the wine. It is not the
fault of the wine and you will find that if a bottle of wine is corked, then
usually the rest of the case of wine is fine. It is a random fault affecting
something like one in 50 bottles. That's quite a high factor and is of
obvious concern because the winery is blamed when really it is a fault of
the cork itself

Also check: http://www.thewineman.com/cork101.htm
http://www.corksupplyusa.com/triple_assurance.htm

Southcorp has developed a new called Aegis that is not as hard as other
synthetic corks, and looks similar to a traditional cork. More commercial
wines in the Southcorp range will be sealed with it, but longer-term trials
will be done before it's used for premium wines. Another product in use is
Supreme Corq, made from thermoplastic, which is used in Lindemans Cawarra,
Hardys Hunter Ridge, Pepper Tree and Boston Bay wines.





"snpm" wrote in message
ups.com...
So I have a crushendo brewing. The corvino. Literature I found on the
web had the balls to suggest it would keep improving for up to a
decade. I'm up for the challenge, but I am not sure my local corks
are.

So, mentors, the question is, what cork would you put in a bottle of
wine you planned to lay down for a decade, why, and where do you get
them?

(I am a learner)

Sean

If it's any help, I had several bottles of 40 year old wine that I recently
opened. My earlier efforts. The wine was superb. (3 of 4 lots, anyway!)

They all had used corks in them when I bottled. (I couldn't afford to go out and
buy corks!) I covered the corks with cotton patches held in place with
elastics, and then dipped in sealing wax.



wrote:

The oldest bottle of wine (made with Spanish concentrate) I have kept is 7
years.
At the time, I had used premium corks obtained at Wine Art store in Canada.
The end result was good but not super excellent.
Now I am looking for screw top bottle or a good synthetic cork.

At this time, the quality of cork is not what it use to be. The same old
Oak trees have been harvested for too long and the quality has deteriorated

Your question can not be answered correctly until a new synthetic cork has
been proven with time.
While waiting for an proven synthetic cork many top wineries are using screw
top bottles

Check: http://www.corksupplyusa.com/natural-corks-quality.htm#
The insidious problem with cork mould is that it is not practical to detect
it before bottling at the winery. Once the afflicted cork is rammed into the
bottle and becomes wet, the mould grows and taints the wine. It is not the
fault of the wine and you will find that if a bottle of wine is corked, then
usually the rest of the case of wine is fine. It is a random fault affecting
something like one in 50 bottles. That's quite a high factor and is of
obvious concern because the winery is blamed when really it is a fault of
the cork itself

Also check: http://www.thewineman.com/cork101.htm
http://www.corksupplyusa.com/triple_assurance.htm

Southcorp has developed a new called Aegis that is not as hard as other
synthetic corks, and looks similar to a traditional cork. More commercial
wines in the Southcorp range will be sealed with it, but longer-term trials
will be done before it's used for premium wines. Another product in use is
Supreme Corq, made from thermoplastic, which is used in Lindemans Cawarra,
Hardys Hunter Ridge, Pepper Tree and Boston Bay wines.

"snpm" wrote in message
ups.com...
So I have a crushendo brewing. The corvino. Literature I found on the
web had the balls to suggest it would keep improving for up to a
decade. I'm up for the challenge, but I am not sure my local corks
are.

So, mentors, the question is, what cork would you put in a bottle of
wine you planned to lay down for a decade, why, and where do you get
them?

(I am a learner)

Sean

"Jack" wrote in message
...
If it's any help, I had several bottles of 40 year old wine that I
recently
opened. My earlier efforts. The wine was superb. (3 of 4 lots, anyway!)

They all had used corks in them when I bottled. (I couldn't afford to go
out and
buy corks!) I covered the corks with cotton patches held in place with
elastics, and then dipped in sealing wax.

Jack, 40 years ago I was in better physical condition so was the quality of
the corks.
The idea of dipping the cotton with wax was and is still a very good thing.
Today, at supper, I open a 2004 Merlot. The wine was excellent. I made
this batch with a kit purchased at Cotsco.
When I pulled the cork out I noticed a slight trace of redish dampness
around the cork which gave me food for tought
I do not think I could keep this batch for more than 5 to 7 years.



wrote:

The oldest bottle of wine (made with Spanish concentrate) I have kept is
7
years.
At the time, I had used premium corks obtained at Wine Art store in
Canada.
The end result was good but not super excellent.
Now I am looking for screw top bottle or a good synthetic cork.

At this time, the quality of cork is not what it use to be. The same old
Oak trees have been harvested for too long and the quality has
deteriorated

Your question can not be answered correctly until a new synthetic cork
has
been proven with time.
While waiting for an proven synthetic cork many top wineries are using
screw
top bottles

Check: http://www.corksupplyusa.com/natural-corks-quality.htm#
The insidious problem with cork mould is that it is not practical to
detect
it before bottling at the winery. Once the afflicted cork is rammed into
the
bottle and becomes wet, the mould grows and taints the wine. It is not
the
fault of the wine and you will find that if a bottle of wine is corked,
then
usually the rest of the case of wine is fine. It is a random fault
affecting
something like one in 50 bottles. That's quite a high factor and is of
obvious concern because the winery is blamed when really it is a fault of
the cork itself

Also check: http://www.thewineman.com/cork101.htm
http://www.corksupplyusa.com/triple_assurance.htm

Southcorp has developed a new called Aegis that is not as hard as other
synthetic corks, and looks similar to a traditional cork. More commercial
wines in the Southcorp range will be sealed with it, but longer-term
trials
will be done before it's used for premium wines. Another product in use
is
Supreme Corq, made from thermoplastic, which is used in Lindemans
Cawarra,
Hardys Hunter Ridge, Pepper Tree and Boston Bay wines.

"snpm" wrote in message
ups.com...
So I have a crushendo brewing. The corvino. Literature I found on the
web had the balls to suggest it would keep improving for up to a
decade. I'm up for the challenge, but I am not sure my local corks
are.

So, mentors, the question is, what cork would you put in a bottle of
wine you planned to lay down for a decade, why, and where do you get
them?

(I am a learner)

Sean

On Apr 6, 2:55 pm, wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message

...

If it's any help, I had several bottles of 40 year old wine that I
recently
opened. My earlier efforts. The wine was superb. (3 of 4 lots, anyway!)

They all had used corks in them when I bottled. (I couldn't afford to go
out and
buy corks!) I covered the corks with cotton patches held in place with
elastics, and then dipped in sealing wax.

Jack, 40 years ago I was in better physical condition so was the quality of
the corks.
The idea of dipping the cotton with wax was and is still a very good thing.
Today, at supper, I open a 2004 Merlot. The wine was excellent. I made
this batch with a kit purchased at Cotsco.
When I pulled the cork out I noticed a slight trace of redish dampness
around the cork which gave me food for tought
I do not think I could keep this batch for more than 5 to 7 years.



wrote:

The oldest bottle of wine (made with Spanish concentrate) I have kept is
7
years.
At the time, I had used premium corks obtained at Wine Art store in
Canada.
The end result was good but not super excellent.
Now I am looking for screw top bottle or a good synthetic cork.

At this time, the quality of cork is not what it use to be. The same old
Oak trees have been harvested for too long and the quality has
deteriorated

Your question can not be answered correctly until a new synthetic cork
has
been proven with time.
While waiting for an proven synthetic cork many top wineries are using
screw
top bottles

Check: http://www.corksupplyusa.com/natural-corks-quality.htm#
The insidious problem with cork mould is that it is not practical to
detect
it before bottling at the winery. Once the afflicted cork is rammed into
the
bottle and becomes wet, the mould grows and taints the wine. It is not
the
fault of the wine and you will find that if a bottle of wine is corked,
then
usually the rest of the case of wine is fine. It is a random fault
affecting
something like one in 50 bottles. That's quite a high factor and is of
obvious concern because the winery is blamed when really it is a fault of
the cork itself

Also check:http://www.thewineman.com/cork101.htm
http://www.corksupplyusa.com/triple_assurance.htm

Southcorp has developed a new called Aegis that is not as hard as other
synthetic corks, and looks similar to a traditional cork. More commercial
wines in the Southcorp range will be sealed with it, but longer-term
trials
will be done before it's used for premium wines. Another product in use
is
Supreme Corq, made from thermoplastic, which is used in Lindemans
Cawarra,
Hardys Hunter Ridge, Pepper Tree and Boston Bay wines.

"snpm" wrote in message
roups.com...
So I have a crushendo brewing. The corvino. Literature I found on the
web had the balls to suggest it would keep improving for up to a
decade. I'm up for the challenge, but I am not sure my local corks
are.

So, mentors, the question is, what cork would you put in a bottle of
wine you planned to lay down for a decade, why, and where do you get
them?

(I am a learner)

Sean- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

do costco always sell wine kits? You live in the states or Canada?

"snpm" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Apr 6, 2:55 pm, wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message

...

If it's any help, I had several bottles of 40 year old wine that I
recently
opened. My earlier efforts. The wine was superb. (3 of 4 lots, anyway!)

They all had used corks in them when I bottled. (I couldn't afford to
go
out and
buy corks!) I covered the corks with cotton patches held in place with
elastics, and then dipped in sealing wax.

Jack, 40 years ago I was in better physical condition so was the quality
of
the corks.
The idea of dipping the cotton with wax was and is still a very good
thing.
Today, at supper, I open a 2004 Merlot. The wine was excellent. I made
this batch with a kit purchased at Cotsco.
When I pulled the cork out I noticed a slight trace of redish dampness
around the cork which gave me food for tought
I do not think I could keep this batch for more than 5 to 7 years.



wrote:

The oldest bottle of wine (made with Spanish concentrate) I have kept
is
7
years.
At the time, I had used premium corks obtained at Wine Art store in
Canada.
The end result was good but not super excellent.
Now I am looking for screw top bottle or a good synthetic cork.

At this time, the quality of cork is not what it use to be. The same
old
Oak trees have been harvested for too long and the quality has
deteriorated

Your question can not be answered correctly until a new synthetic cork
has
been proven with time.
While waiting for an proven synthetic cork many top wineries are using
screw
top bottles

Check: http://www.corksupplyusa.com/natural-corks-quality.htm#
The insidious problem with cork mould is that it is not practical to
detect
it before bottling at the winery. Once the afflicted cork is rammed
into
the
bottle and becomes wet, the mould grows and taints the wine. It is not
the
fault of the wine and you will find that if a bottle of wine is
corked,
then
usually the rest of the case of wine is fine. It is a random fault
affecting
something like one in 50 bottles. That's quite a high factor and is of
obvious concern because the winery is blamed when really it is a fault
of
the cork itself

Also check:http://www.thewineman.com/cork101.htm
http://www.corksupplyusa.com/triple_assurance.htm

Southcorp has developed a new called Aegis that is not as hard as
other
synthetic corks, and looks similar to a traditional cork. More
commercial
wines in the Southcorp range will be sealed with it, but longer-term
trials
will be done before it's used for premium wines. Another product in
use
is
Supreme Corq, made from thermoplastic, which is used in Lindemans
Cawarra,
Hardys Hunter Ridge, Pepper Tree and Boston Bay wines.

"snpm" wrote in message
roups.com...
So I have a crushendo brewing. The corvino. Literature I found on
the
web had the balls to suggest it would keep improving for up to a
decade. I'm up for the challenge, but I am not sure my local corks
are.

So, mentors, the question is, what cork would you put in a bottle of
wine you planned to lay down for a decade, why, and where do you get
them?

(I am a learner)

Sean- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

do costco always sell wine kits? You live in the states or Canada?

I live in eastern Canada. Yes Costco sells wine making kit. Usually, the
kits are sold in twin pack each one making 5 gallons US
I have two batch on the go. The resulting wine from these kits is
surprising. The ratio quality price is very good.
I have my own well and the water is very good. This may account for making
good wine and beer from kits.

On Apr 6, 4:00 pm, wrote:
"snpm" wrote in message

oups.com...





On Apr 6, 2:55 pm, wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message

...

If it's any help, I had several bottles of 40 year old wine that I
recently
opened. My earlier efforts. The wine was superb. (3 of 4 lots, anyway!)

They all had used corks in them when I bottled. (I couldn't afford to
go
out and
buy corks!) I covered the corks with cotton patches held in place with
elastics, and then dipped in sealing wax.

Jack, 40 years ago I was in better physical condition so was the quality
of
the corks.
The idea of dipping the cotton with wax was and is still a very good
thing.
Today, at supper, I open a 2004 Merlot. The wine was excellent. I made
this batch with a kit purchased at Cotsco.
When I pulled the cork out I noticed a slight trace of redish dampness
around the cork which gave me food for tought
I do not think I could keep this batch for more than 5 to 7 years.

wrote:

The oldest bottle of wine (made with Spanish concentrate) I have kept
is
7
years.
At the time, I had used premium corks obtained at Wine Art store in
Canada.
The end result was good but not super excellent.
Now I am looking for screw top bottle or a good synthetic cork.

At this time, the quality of cork is not what it use to be. The same
old
Oak trees have been harvested for too long and the quality has
deteriorated

Your question can not be answered correctly until a new synthetic cork
has
been proven with time.
While waiting for an proven synthetic cork many top wineries are using
screw
top bottles

Check: http://www.corksupplyusa.com/natural-corks-quality.htm#
The insidious problem with cork mould is that it is not practical to
detect
it before bottling at the winery. Once the afflicted cork is rammed
into
the
bottle and becomes wet, the mould grows and taints the wine. It is not
the
fault of the wine and you will find that if a bottle of wine is
corked,
then
usually the rest of the case of wine is fine. It is a random fault
affecting
something like one in 50 bottles. That's quite a high factor and is of
obvious concern because the winery is blamed when really it is a fault
of
the cork itself

Also check:http://www.thewineman.com/cork101.htm
http://www.corksupplyusa.com/triple_assurance.htm

Southcorp has developed a new called Aegis that is not as hard as
other
synthetic corks, and looks similar to a traditional cork. More
commercial
wines in the Southcorp range will be sealed with it, but longer-term
trials
will be done before it's used for premium wines. Another product in
use
is
Supreme Corq, made from thermoplastic, which is used in Lindemans
Cawarra,
Hardys Hunter Ridge, Pepper Tree and Boston Bay wines.

"snpm" wrote in message
roups.com...
So I have a crushendo brewing. The corvino. Literature I found on
the
web had the balls to suggest it would keep improving for up to a
decade. I'm up for the challenge, but I am not sure my local corks
are.

So, mentors, the question is, what cork would you put in a bottle of
wine you planned to lay down for a decade, why, and where do you get
them?

(I am a learner)

Sean- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

do costco always sell wine kits? You live in the states or Canada?

I live in eastern Canada. Yes Costco sells wine making kit. Usually, the
kits are sold in twin pack each one making 5 gallons US
I have two batch on the go. The resulting wine from these kits is
surprising. The ratio quality price is very good.
I have my own well and the water is very good. This may account for making
good wine and beer from kits.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Ah, jealousy is so unbecoming of me.....

Darn it, it suits me so well, we have Costco here in the UK, but I'll be if Costco don't sell winekits here. I am
jealous as a pig in a suit staring at a sty!

Got any immigration licenses?

Jim

"snpm" wrote in message oups.com...
On Apr 6, 4:00 pm, wrote:
"snpm" wrote in message

oups.com...





On Apr 6, 2:55 pm, wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message

...

If it's any help, I had several bottles of 40 year old wine that I
recently
opened. My earlier efforts. The wine was superb. (3 of 4 lots, anyway!)

They all had used corks in them when I bottled. (I couldn't afford to
go
out and
buy corks!) I covered the corks with cotton patches held in place with
elastics, and then dipped in sealing wax.

Jack, 40 years ago I was in better physical condition so was the quality
of
the corks.
The idea of dipping the cotton with wax was and is still a very good
thing.
Today, at supper, I open a 2004 Merlot. The wine was excellent. I made
this batch with a kit purchased at Cotsco.
When I pulled the cork out I noticed a slight trace of redish dampness
around the cork which gave me food for tought
I do not think I could keep this batch for more than 5 to 7 years.

wrote:

The oldest bottle of wine (made with Spanish concentrate) I have kept
is
7
years.
At the time, I had used premium corks obtained at Wine Art store in
Canada.
The end result was good but not super excellent.
Now I am looking for screw top bottle or a good synthetic cork.

At this time, the quality of cork is not what it use to be. The same
old
Oak trees have been harvested for too long and the quality has
deteriorated

Your question can not be answered correctly until a new synthetic cork
has
been proven with time.
While waiting for an proven synthetic cork many top wineries are using
screw
top bottles

Check: http://www.corksupplyusa.com/natural-corks-quality.htm#
The insidious problem with cork mould is that it is not practical to
detect
it before bottling at the winery. Once the afflicted cork is rammed
into
the
bottle and becomes wet, the mould grows and taints the wine. It is not
the
fault of the wine and you will find that if a bottle of wine is
corked,
then
usually the rest of the case of wine is fine. It is a random fault
affecting
something like one in 50 bottles. That's quite a high factor and is of
obvious concern because the winery is blamed when really it is a fault
of
the cork itself

Also check:http://www.thewineman.com/cork101.htm
http://www.corksupplyusa.com/triple_assurance.htm

Southcorp has developed a new called Aegis that is not as hard as
other
synthetic corks, and looks similar to a traditional cork. More
commercial
wines in the Southcorp range will be sealed with it, but longer-term
trials
will be done before it's used for premium wines. Another product in
use
is
Supreme Corq, made from thermoplastic, which is used in Lindemans
Cawarra,
Hardys Hunter Ridge, Pepper Tree and Boston Bay wines.

"snpm" wrote in message
roups.com...
So I have a crushendo brewing. The corvino. Literature I found on
the
web had the balls to suggest it would keep improving for up to a
decade. I'm up for the challenge, but I am not sure my local corks
are.

So, mentors, the question is, what cork would you put in a bottle of
wine you planned to lay down for a decade, why, and where do you get
them?

(I am a learner)

Sean- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

do costco always sell wine kits? You live in the states or Canada?

I live in eastern Canada. Yes Costco sells wine making kit. Usually, the
kits are sold in twin pack each one making 5 gallons US
I have two batch on the go. The resulting wine from these kits is
surprising. The ratio quality price is very good.
I have my own well and the water is very good. This may account for making
good wine and beer from kits.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Ah, jealousy is so unbecoming of me.....

"jim" wrote in message
...
Darn it, it suits me so well, we have Costco here in the UK, but I'll be
if Costco don't sell winekits here. I am jealous as a pig in a suit
staring at a sty!

Got any immigration licenses?

Jim
The wine making kit sold at Costco Canada are made with concentrate from
Argentina.
At first when I visited Costco I did not notice any wine making kit on their
display shelves.
Then one day when my daughter came with me she lead me to the proper section
of the store.
England is well renown for amateur wine making. Maybe you should talk to
the manager of Costco UK and find out when they will have these wine kits.
If they do not already have them it would be a good business move to start
stocking these kits. Or maybe you could send Costco UK an email inquiring
about wine making kit.
Let us know how you make out with them.


"snpm" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Apr 6, 4:00 pm, wrote:
"snpm" wrote in message

oups.com...





On Apr 6, 2:55 pm, wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message

...

If it's any help, I had several bottles of 40 year old wine that I
recently
opened. My earlier efforts. The wine was superb. (3 of 4 lots,
anyway!)

They all had used corks in them when I bottled. (I couldn't afford
to
go
out and
buy corks!) I covered the corks with cotton patches held in place
with
elastics, and then dipped in sealing wax.

Jack, 40 years ago I was in better physical condition so was the
quality
of
the corks.
The idea of dipping the cotton with wax was and is still a very good
thing.
Today, at supper, I open a 2004 Merlot. The wine was excellent. I
made
this batch with a kit purchased at Cotsco.
When I pulled the cork out I noticed a slight trace of redish
dampness
around the cork which gave me food for tought
I do not think I could keep this batch for more than 5 to 7 years.

wrote:

The oldest bottle of wine (made with Spanish concentrate) I have
kept
is
7
years.
At the time, I had used premium corks obtained at Wine Art store
in
Canada.
The end result was good but not super excellent.
Now I am looking for screw top bottle or a good synthetic cork.

At this time, the quality of cork is not what it use to be. The
same
old
Oak trees have been harvested for too long and the quality has
deteriorated

Your question can not be answered correctly until a new synthetic
cork
has
been proven with time.
While waiting for an proven synthetic cork many top wineries are
using
screw
top bottles

Check: http://www.corksupplyusa.com/natural-corks-quality.htm#
The insidious problem with cork mould is that it is not practical
to
detect
it before bottling at the winery. Once the afflicted cork is
rammed
into
the
bottle and becomes wet, the mould grows and taints the wine. It is
not
the
fault of the wine and you will find that if a bottle of wine is
corked,
then
usually the rest of the case of wine is fine. It is a random fault
affecting
something like one in 50 bottles. That's quite a high factor and
is of
obvious concern because the winery is blamed when really it is a
fault
of
the cork itself

Also check:http://www.thewineman.com/cork101.htm
http://www.corksupplyusa.com/triple_assurance.htm

Southcorp has developed a new called Aegis that is not as hard as
other
synthetic corks, and looks similar to a traditional cork. More
commercial
wines in the Southcorp range will be sealed with it, but
longer-term
trials
will be done before it's used for premium wines. Another product
in
use
is
Supreme Corq, made from thermoplastic, which is used in Lindemans
Cawarra,
Hardys Hunter Ridge, Pepper Tree and Boston Bay wines.

"snpm" wrote in message
roups.com...
So I have a crushendo brewing. The corvino. Literature I found
on
the
web had the balls to suggest it would keep improving for up to a
decade. I'm up for the challenge, but I am not sure my local
corks
are.

So, mentors, the question is, what cork would you put in a
bottle of
wine you planned to lay down for a decade, why, and where do you
get
them?

(I am a learner)

Sean- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

do costco always sell wine kits? You live in the states or Canada?

I live in eastern Canada. Yes Costco sells wine making kit. Usually,
the
kits are sold in twin pack each one making 5 gallons US
I have two batch on the go. The resulting wine from these kits is
surprising. The ratio quality price is very good.
I have my own well and the water is very good. This may account for
making
good wine and beer from kits.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Ah, jealousy is so unbecoming of me.....

Hi Marierdj - I will indeed!

Although the UK has a long history of wine and beer making, I think the local market is less than obvious to many
international tbusinesses trading here. Giving them a helpful prod can do no harm and could be beneficial alround.

Thanks for the suggestion!

Jm


"jim" wrote in message ...
Forgive me, I forgot to add my tuppence...

I am making a rice-wine using a Gervin GV26 and heading towards a 21% final alcohol by vol. I hear this wine keeps
'rather well' and so I have been investigating the correct corks to use in such a case. My best local winemaking
store here in the UK said that only their synthetic corks are rated as lasting beyond 18 months - 2 years. Naturally
I bought 100 to try.

This echoes comments made about the poorer quality of generic natural cork these days. If anyone has more good
information for this thread it would be beneficial to know if anyone knows the dice with synthetic corks. If they are
currently the best general solution to long-term storage - can there be a major difference between types? These are a
hard - yet slightly compressable type - like a nylon feel - though I have no data on the substance used.

Cheers, Jim

"jim" wrote in message ...
Darn it, it suits me so well, we have Costco here in the UK, but I'll be if Costco don't sell winekits here. I am
jealous as a pig in a suit staring at a sty!

Got any immigration licenses?

Jim

"snpm" wrote in message oups.com...
On Apr 6, 4:00 pm, wrote:
"snpm" wrote in message

oups.com...





On Apr 6, 2:55 pm, wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message

...

If it's any help, I had several bottles of 40 year old wine that I
recently
opened. My earlier efforts. The wine was superb. (3 of 4 lots, anyway!)

They all had used corks in them when I bottled. (I couldn't afford to
go
out and
buy corks!) I covered the corks with cotton patches held in place with
elastics, and then dipped in sealing wax.

Jack, 40 years ago I was in better physical condition so was the quality
of
the corks.
The idea of dipping the cotton with wax was and is still a very good
thing.
Today, at supper, I open a 2004 Merlot. The wine was excellent. I made
this batch with a kit purchased at Cotsco.
When I pulled the cork out I noticed a slight trace of redish dampness
around the cork which gave me food for tought
I do not think I could keep this batch for more than 5 to 7 years.

wrote:

The oldest bottle of wine (made with Spanish concentrate) I have kept
is
7
years.
At the time, I had used premium corks obtained at Wine Art store in
Canada.
The end result was good but not super excellent.
Now I am looking for screw top bottle or a good synthetic cork.

At this time, the quality of cork is not what it use to be. The same
old
Oak trees have been harvested for too long and the quality has
deteriorated

Your question can not be answered correctly until a new synthetic cork
has
been proven with time.
While waiting for an proven synthetic cork many top wineries are using
screw
top bottles

Check: http://www.corksupplyusa.com/natural-corks-quality.htm#
The insidious problem with cork mould is that it is not practical to
detect
it before bottling at the winery. Once the afflicted cork is rammed
into
the
bottle and becomes wet, the mould grows and taints the wine. It is not
the
fault of the wine and you will find that if a bottle of wine is
corked,
then
usually the rest of the case of wine is fine. It is a random fault
affecting
something like one in 50 bottles. That's quite a high factor and is of
obvious concern because the winery is blamed when really it is a fault
of
the cork itself

Also check:http://www.thewineman.com/cork101.htm
http://www.corksupplyusa.com/triple_assurance.htm

Southcorp has developed a new called Aegis that is not as hard as
other
synthetic corks, and looks similar to a traditional cork. More
commercial
wines in the Southcorp range will be sealed with it, but longer-term
trials
will be done before it's used for premium wines. Another product in
use
is
Supreme Corq, made from thermoplastic, which is used in Lindemans
Cawarra,
Hardys Hunter Ridge, Pepper Tree and Boston Bay wines.

"snpm" wrote in message
roups.com...
So I have a crushendo brewing. The corvino. Literature I found on
the
web had the balls to suggest it would keep improving for up to a
decade. I'm up for the challenge, but I am not sure my local corks
are.

So, mentors, the question is, what cork would you put in a bottle of
wine you planned to lay down for a decade, why, and where do you get
them?

(I am a learner)

Sean- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

do costco always sell wine kits? You live in the states or Canada?

I live in eastern Canada. Yes Costco sells wine making kit. Usually, the
kits are sold in twin pack each one making 5 gallons US
I have two batch on the go. The resulting wine from these kits is
surprising. The ratio quality price is very good.
I have my own well and the water is very good. This may account for making
good wine and beer from kits.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Ah, jealousy is so unbecoming of me.....

On Apr 6, 7:00 pm, wrote:
"snpm" wrote in message

oups.com...





On Apr 6, 2:55 pm, wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message

...

If it's any help, I had several bottles of 40 year old wine that I
recently
opened. My earlier efforts. The wine was superb. (3 of 4 lots, anyway!)

They all had used corks in them when I bottled. (I couldn't afford to
go
out and
buy corks!) I covered the corks with cotton patches held in place with
elastics, and then dipped in sealing wax.

Jack, 40 years ago I was in better physical condition so was the quality
of
the corks.
The idea of dipping the cotton with wax was and is still a very good
thing.
Today, at supper, I open a 2004 Merlot. The wine was excellent. I made
this batch with a kit purchased at Cotsco.
When I pulled the cork out I noticed a slight trace of redish dampness
around the cork which gave me food for tought
I do not think I could keep this batch for more than 5 to 7 years.

wrote:

The oldest bottle of wine (made with Spanish concentrate) I have kept
is
7
years.
At the time, I had used premium corks obtained at Wine Art store in
Canada.
The end result was good but not super excellent.
Now I am looking for screw top bottle or a good synthetic cork.

At this time, the quality of cork is not what it use to be. The same
old
Oak trees have been harvested for too long and the quality has
deteriorated

Your question can not be answered correctly until a new synthetic cork
has
been proven with time.
While waiting for an proven synthetic cork many top wineries are using
screw
top bottles

Check: http://www.corksupplyusa.com/natural-corks-quality.htm#
The insidious problem with cork mould is that it is not practical to
detect
it before bottling at the winery. Once the afflicted cork is rammed
into
the
bottle and becomes wet, the mould grows and taints the wine. It is not
the
fault of the wine and you will find that if a bottle of wine is
corked,
then
usually the rest of the case of wine is fine. It is a random fault
affecting
something like one in 50 bottles. That's quite a high factor and is of
obvious concern because the winery is blamed when really it is a fault
of
the cork itself

Also check:http://www.thewineman.com/cork101.htm
http://www.corksupplyusa.com/triple_assurance.htm

Southcorp has developed a new called Aegis that is not as hard as
other
synthetic corks, and looks similar to a traditional cork. More
commercial
wines in the Southcorp range will be sealed with it, but longer-term
trials
will be done before it's used for premium wines. Another product in
use
is
Supreme Corq, made from thermoplastic, which is used in Lindemans
Cawarra,
Hardys Hunter Ridge, Pepper Tree and Boston Bay wines.

"snpm" wrote in message
roups.com...
So I have a crushendo brewing. The corvino. Literature I found on
the
web had the balls to suggest it would keep improving for up to a
decade. I'm up for the challenge, but I am not sure my local corks
are.

So, mentors, the question is, what cork would you put in a bottle of
wine you planned to lay down for a decade, why, and where do you get
them?

(I am a learner)

Sean- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

do costco always sell wine kits? You live in the states or Canada?

I live in eastern Canada. Yes Costco sells wine making kit. Usually, the
kits are sold in twin pack each one making 5 gallons US
I have two batch on the go. The resulting wine from these kits is
surprising. The ratio quality price is very good.
I have my own well and the water is very good. This may account for making
good wine and beer from kits.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"I live in eastern Canada. Yes Costco sells wine making kit.
Usually, the kits are sold in twin pack each one making 5 gallons US."

I live on thw south shore of Montreal. The kits are 5 gallons
imperial, 6 gallons US.

Guy

"guy" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Apr 6, 7:00 pm, wrote:
"snpm" wrote in message

oups.com...





On Apr 6, 2:55 pm, wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message

...

If it's any help, I had several bottles of 40 year old wine that I
recently
opened. My earlier efforts. The wine was superb. (3 of 4 lots,
anyway!)

They all had used corks in them when I bottled. (I couldn't afford
to
go
out and
buy corks!) I covered the corks with cotton patches held in place
with
elastics, and then dipped in sealing wax.

Jack, 40 years ago I was in better physical condition so was the
quality
of
the corks.
The idea of dipping the cotton with wax was and is still a very good
thing.
Today, at supper, I open a 2004 Merlot. The wine was excellent. I
made
this batch with a kit purchased at Cotsco.
When I pulled the cork out I noticed a slight trace of redish dampness
around the cork which gave me food for tought
I do not think I could keep this batch for more than 5 to 7 years.

wrote:

The oldest bottle of wine (made with Spanish concentrate) I have
kept
is
7
years.
At the time, I had used premium corks obtained at Wine Art store in
Canada.
The end result was good but not super excellent.
Now I am looking for screw top bottle or a good synthetic cork.

At this time, the quality of cork is not what it use to be. The
same
old
Oak trees have been harvested for too long and the quality has
deteriorated

Your question can not be answered correctly until a new synthetic
cork
has
been proven with time.
While waiting for an proven synthetic cork many top wineries are
using
screw
top bottles

Check: http://www.corksupplyusa.com/natural-corks-quality.htm#
The insidious problem with cork mould is that it is not practical
to
detect
it before bottling at the winery. Once the afflicted cork is rammed
into
the
bottle and becomes wet, the mould grows and taints the wine. It is
not
the
fault of the wine and you will find that if a bottle of wine is
corked,
then
usually the rest of the case of wine is fine. It is a random fault
affecting
something like one in 50 bottles. That's quite a high factor and is
of
obvious concern because the winery is blamed when really it is a
fault
of
the cork itself

Also check:http://www.thewineman.com/cork101.htm
http://www.corksupplyusa.com/triple_assurance.htm

Southcorp has developed a new called Aegis that is not as hard as
other
synthetic corks, and looks similar to a traditional cork. More
commercial
wines in the Southcorp range will be sealed with it, but
longer-term
trials
will be done before it's used for premium wines. Another product in
use
is
Supreme Corq, made from thermoplastic, which is used in Lindemans
Cawarra,
Hardys Hunter Ridge, Pepper Tree and Boston Bay wines.

"snpm" wrote in message
roups.com...
So I have a crushendo brewing. The corvino. Literature I found on
the
web had the balls to suggest it would keep improving for up to a
decade. I'm up for the challenge, but I am not sure my local
corks
are.

So, mentors, the question is, what cork would you put in a bottle
of
wine you planned to lay down for a decade, why, and where do you
get
them?

(I am a learner)

Sean- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

do costco always sell wine kits? You live in the states or Canada?

I live in eastern Canada. Yes Costco sells wine making kit. Usually,
the
kits are sold in twin pack each one making 5 gallons US
I have two batch on the go. The resulting wine from these kits is
surprising. The ratio quality price is very good.
I have my own well and the water is very good. This may account for
making
good wine and beer from kits.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"I live in eastern Canada. Yes Costco sells wine making kit.
Usually, the kits are sold in twin pack each one making 5 gallons US."

I live on thw south shore of Montreal. The kits are 5 gallons
imperial, 6 gallons US.

Guy

Thanks for the correction.
I have inadvertely mentionned the wrong figure Its should have read:
Its 23L 6 US gallons, You must have the same stock on the South shore of
Montreal as we have in Eastern Canada.

On Apr 7, 4:34 pm, wrote:
"guy" wrote in message

oups.com...



On Apr 6, 7:00 pm, wrote:
"snpm" wrote in message

groups.com...

On Apr 6, 2:55 pm, wrote:
"Jack" wrote in message

...

If it's any help, I had several bottles of 40 year old wine that I
recently
opened. My earlier efforts. The wine was superb. (3 of 4 lots,
anyway!)

They all had used corks in them when I bottled. (I couldn't afford
to
go
out and
buy corks!) I covered the corks with cotton patches held in place
with
elastics, and then dipped in sealing wax.

Jack, 40 years ago I was in better physical condition so was the
quality
of
the corks.
The idea of dipping the cotton with wax was and is still a very good
thing.
Today, at supper, I open a 2004 Merlot. The wine was excellent. I
made
this batch with a kit purchased at Cotsco.
When I pulled the cork out I noticed a slight trace of redish dampness
around the cork which gave me food for tought
I do not think I could keep this batch for more than 5 to 7 years.

wrote:

The oldest bottle of wine (made with Spanish concentrate) I have
kept
is
7
years.
At the time, I had used premium corks obtained at Wine Art store in
Canada.
The end result was good but not super excellent.
Now I am looking for screw top bottle or a good synthetic cork.

At this time, the quality of cork is not what it use to be. The
same
old
Oak trees have been harvested for too long and the quality has
deteriorated

Your question can not be answered correctly until a new synthetic
cork
has
been proven with time.
While waiting for an proven synthetic cork many top wineries are
using
screw
top bottles

Check: http://www.corksupplyusa.com/natural-corks-quality.htm#
The insidious problem with cork mould is that it is not practical
to
detect
it before bottling at the winery. Once the afflicted cork is rammed
into
the
bottle and becomes wet, the mould grows and taints the wine. It is
not
the
fault of the wine and you will find that if a bottle of wine is
corked,
then
usually the rest of the case of wine is fine. It is a random fault
affecting
something like one in 50 bottles. That's quite a high factor and is
of
obvious concern because the winery is blamed when really it is a
fault
of
the cork itself

Also check:http://www.thewineman.com/cork101.htm
http://www.corksupplyusa.com/triple_assurance.htm

Southcorp has developed a new called Aegis that is not as hard as
other
synthetic corks, and looks similar to a traditional cork. More
commercial
wines in the Southcorp range will be sealed with it, but
longer-term
trials
will be done before it's used for premium wines. Another product in
use
is
Supreme Corq, made from thermoplastic, which is used in Lindemans
Cawarra,
Hardys Hunter Ridge, Pepper Tree and Boston Bay wines.

"snpm" wrote in message
roups.com...
So I have a crushendo brewing. The corvino. Literature I found on
the
web had the balls to suggest it would keep improving for up to a
decade. I'm up for the challenge, but I am not sure my local
corks
are.

So, mentors, the question is, what cork would you put in a bottle
of
wine you planned to lay down for a decade, why, and where do you
get
them?

(I am a learner)

Sean- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

do costco always sell wine kits? You live in the states or Canada?

I live in eastern Canada. Yes Costco sells wine making kit. Usually,
the
kits are sold in twin pack each one making 5 gallons US
I have two batch on the go. The resulting wine from these kits is
surprising. The ratio quality price is very good.
I have my own well and the water is very good. This may account for
making
good wine and beer from kits.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"I live in eastern Canada. Yes Costco sells wine making kit.
Usually, the kits are sold in twin pack each one making 5 gallons US."

I live on thw south shore of Montreal. The kits are 5 gallons
imperial, 6 gallons US.

Guy

Thanks for the correction.
I have inadvertely mentionned the wrong figure Its should have read:
Its 23L 6 US gallons, You must have the same stock on the South shore of
Montreal as we have in Eastern Canada.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

so 23l is 5 imperial as well as 6 US? Its that simple an "exchange
rate"?