This is a Pecharment that I picked up at the vinyard near Bergerac about 2
years ago. When I went to pull the cork it was very hard to pull, finally
the center gave out and I was forced to push the cork into the bottle and
decant praying all along that the wine was OK.

It was, and is. Deep color, just a hint of greeness on the finish
accompanied by some rather firm but not objectionable tannins. I liked this
wine when I bought it. The grower is retired from some other line of
business adn is something of a passionate amateur who has help from a pro
in the blending of the grapes and vinification, it is a lovely effort which
is evolving even as I write. the tannins are less noticable and the wine is
getting a bit more complex with air. Dinner is in an hour.

--
Joseph Coulter
Cruises and Vacations
http://www.josephcoulter.com/

Salut/Hi Joseph Coulter,

le/on Sat, 18 Mar 2006 17:51:38 -0600, tu disais/you said:-

This is a Pecharment that I picked up at the vinyard near Bergerac about 2
years ago.

Still pretty young, by the way. 2002 was an excellent year for serious wine
makers, though quite difficult technically.

Ch Renaudie is a very good Pécharmant. According to their website it's
biggest component is Merlot (45%) but with 30% of Cabernet Sauvignon, the
remaining 25% being Cab Franc and Malbec. A very Bordeaux mixture in fact.
I've met Yves Allamagny at a number of wine shows, and though I've never
bought his wines directly, I've had them at a number of better restaurants.
Which one did you get, the Ch 2002 or the 2002 cuvée vieilles vignes? The
straight château wine is currently retailing at €8.50 and the vieille vignes
at €15.

who has help from a pro in the blending of the grapes and vinification, it is a lovely effort which
is evolving even as I write. the tannins are less noticable and the wine is
getting a bit more complex with air. Dinner is in an hour.

I guess most of the locals - at least the most serious ones - use the
services of professional oenologues to help and advise them. In today's
world of tough international competition, they all need to make the best
wines they can to succeed. Bergerac, as a region, like Bordeaux, is quite
sharply divided into two. The ones who are really making an effort to
compete and make good wines, and the ones who are content to make wines as
they always have, and sell to the negoces (middlemen) at mickey mouse prices
- typically 40 cents US a litre.

So how was it?

--
All the Best
Ian Hoare
http://www.souvigne.com
mailbox full to avoid spam. try me at website

Ian Hoare wrote in
:

Salut/Hi Joseph Coulter,

le/on Sat, 18 Mar 2006 17:51:38 -0600, tu disais/you said:-

This is a Pecharment that I picked up at the vinyard near Bergerac
about 2 years ago.

Still pretty young, by the way. 2002 was an excellent year for serious
wine makers, though quite difficult technically.

It felt a little young on opening, that is what I meant by green.
Technically defficult is scary term, but this wine did not show the
kind of oak that I associate with the term.

Ch Renaudie is a very good Pécharmant. According to their website
it's biggest component is Merlot (45%) but with 30% of Cabernet
Sauvignon, the remaining 25% being Cab Franc and Malbec. A very
Bordeaux mixture in fact. I've met Yves Allamagny at a number of wine
shows, and though I've never bought his wines directly, I've had them
at a number of better restaurants. Which one did you get, the Ch 2002
or the 2002 cuvée vieilles vignes? The straight château wine is
currently retailing at €8.50 and the vieille vignes at €15.
It would have been the straight chateau, cheapskate that I am :-)


who has help from a pro in the blending of the grapes and
vinification, it is a lovely effort which is evolving even as I write.
the tannins are less noticable and the wine is getting a bit more
complex with air. Dinner is in an hour.



So how was it?

the wine was beautiful with the veal the tannins were relaxed and the
greenness dissapated to reveal a smmooth and palate claensing wine that
I would easily pay 20USD+ for ( the bottom line for me is does the wine
work with dinner? and the answer was yes!)


--
Joseph Coulter
Cruises and Vacations
http://www.josephcoulter.com/

Joseph Coulter wrote:

Ch Renaudie is a very good P??charmant. According to their website

Joseph,
If this is an accurate rendering of what you saw, you need to tweak
Xnews. Ian's message was encoded in the Unicode (UTF-8) character
encoding (instead of the more common ISO-8859-1) and was indicated as
such in his post's header records. You should check Xnews's settings
and make sure that it's not set to *always* render messages in ISO-8859-1.

HTH
Mark Lipton

Mark Lipton wrote in
:

Joseph Coulter wrote:

Ch Renaudie is a very good P??charmant. According to their website

Joseph,
If this is an accurate rendering of what you saw, you need to tweak
Xnews. Ian's message was encoded in the Unicode (UTF-8) character
encoding (instead of the more common ISO-8859-1) and was indicated as
such in his post's header records. You should check Xnews's settings
and make sure that it's not set to *always* render messages in
ISO-8859-1.

HTH
Mark Lipton


I wondered about that, I usually see things right but lately I have noticed
some strange renditions. Where do I go to cahnge the setting? The one thing
I don't like about X news is the lack of documentation.

--
Joseph Coulter
Cruises and Vacations
http://www.josephcoulter.com/

Joseph Coulter wrote:

I wondered about that, I usually see things right but lately I have noticed
some strange renditions. Where do I go to cahnge the setting? The one thing
I don't like about X news is the lack of documentation.


Since I don't use Winders, I had to look into this on the Web. It
appears that you're SOL, as Xnews is stated to not support MIME (the
standard used to get different character encodings). If you want, you
could inquire in the news.software.newsreaders newsgroup.

Sorry!
Mark Lipton

Mark Lipton wrote in
:

Joseph Coulter wrote:

I wondered about that, I usually see things right but lately I have
noticed some strange renditions. Where do I go to cahnge the setting?
The one thing I don't like about X news is the lack of documentation.


Since I don't use Winders, I had to look into this on the Web. It
appears that you're SOL, as Xnews is stated to not support MIME (the
standard used to get different character encodings). If you want, you
could inquire in the news.software.newsreaders newsgroup.

Sorry!
Mark Lipton


Thanks I was beginning to think I couldn't navigate the program and find a
nonexistent setting. It has been annoying, as I have seen a few of these
posts int he past few weeks, Never the less, Xnews beats Outlook express
hands down. post already made to news.software but hope is not really a
part of the picture. Thanks again. I'll have another glass of Querceto
Chianti Classico thank you very much.

--
Joseph Coulter
Cruises and Vacations
http://www.josephcoulter.com/

Salut/Hi Joseph Coulter,

le/on Sun, 19 Mar 2006 07:48:49 -0600, tu disais/you said:-

Ian Hoare wrote in
:

This is a Pecharment that I picked up at the vinyard near Bergerac
about 2 years ago.

Still pretty young, by the way. 2002 was an excellent year for serious
wine makers, though quite difficult technically.

It felt a little young on opening, that is what I meant by green.
Technically defficult is scary term, but this wine did not show the
kind of oak that I associate with the term.

Oh :-( I hate it when I mean one thing pretty simple and it gets understood
as something completely different.

As far as I'm concerned, I meant that 2002 was a year when it was quite
tricky to make good wine. That's all. Nothing about oak, or even ash!! :-)


So how was it?

the wine was beautiful with the veal the tannins were relaxed and the
greenness dissapated to reveal a smmooth and palate cleansing wine that
I would easily pay 20USD+ for ( the bottom line for me is does the wine
work with dinner? and the answer was yes!)

And at the end of the day, that's what it's all about!



--
All the Best
Ian Hoare
http://www.souvigne.com
mailbox full to avoid spam. try me at website

Ian Hoare wrote in
:

Salut/Hi Joseph Coulter,

le/on Sun, 19 Mar 2006 07:48:49 -0600, tu disais/you said:-

Ian Hoare wrote in
m:

This is a Pecharment that I picked up at the vinyard near Bergerac
about 2 years ago.

Still pretty young, by the way. 2002 was an excellent year for
serious wine makers, though quite difficult technically.

It felt a little young on opening, that is what I meant by green.
Technically defficult is scary term, but this wine did not show the
kind of oak that I associate with the term.

Oh :-( I hate it when I mean one thing pretty simple and it gets
understood as something completely different.

As far as I'm concerned, I meant that 2002 was a year when it was
quite tricky to make good wine. That's all. Nothing about oak, or even
ash!! :-)



Agreed, it is just that the last time I heard the phrase, about the 97
St Emilion vintage FWIW the wine in questions was intolerably oaky.

--
Joseph Coulter
Cruises and Vacations
http://www.josephcoulter.com/