Hello All,

My family, and my brother's family are renting a house on the beach about 5 minutes outside of Edgartown at the end of next week. My bro and I are both wine nuts, and we plan on purchasing a few fine bottles for consumption while we are there.

Any recommendations for good wine shops around the area while we are there???

Thanks,

- Ian

"I/C TARRANT" wrote:

My family, and my brother's family are renting a house on the
beach about 5 minutes outside of Edgartown at the end of next
week.

And that's where on this planet? British Columbia, Kent, New South
Wales, Tansania?

M.

On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 07:58:26 +0200, Michael Pronay
wrote:

"I/C TARRANT" wrote:

My family, and my brother's family are renting a house on the
beach about 5 minutes outside of Edgartown at the end of next
week.

And that's where on this planet? British Columbia, Kent, New South
Wales, Tansania?

Martha's Vineyard (see subject line)

--
Steve Slatcher
http://pobox.com/~steve.slatcher

Steve Slatcher wrote:

And that's where on this planet? British Columbia, Kent, New
South Wales, Tansania?

Martha's Vineyard (see subject line)

And you think that a European/Asian wine geek has an idea about
where that is - except for the origin of Heitz's Napa bottling, of
course?

Strange americanocentric approach in an international newsgroup.

M.

On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 10:39:10 +0200, Michael Pronay
wrote:

Steve Slatcher wrote:

And that's where on this planet? British Columbia, Kent, New
South Wales, Tansania?

Martha's Vineyard (see subject line)

And you think that a European/Asian wine geek has an idea about
where that is -

Er, yes.

except for the origin of Heitz's Napa bottling, of
course?

Strange americanocentric approach in an international newsgroup.

I too dislike posts that make americanocentric assumptions, but I
thought this one was perfectly reasonable and clear.

(Apoligies for the email copy of my last post BTW. It was not
intentional.)

--
Steve Slatcher
http://pobox.com/~steve.slatcher

Steve Slatcher wrote:

Martha's Vineyard (see subject line)

And you think that a European/Asian wine geek has an idea about
where that is -

Er, yes.

OK, so let's ask te European/Asian regulars if they know where
"Martha's Vineyard" is - honest responses, please!

except for the origin of Heitz's Napa bottling, of course?

Strange americanocentric approach in an international
newsgroup.

I too dislike posts that make americanocentric assumptions, but
I thought this one was perfectly reasonable and clear.

Hmm. I'm less sure about that point.

(Apoligies for the email copy of my last post BTW. It was not
intentional.)

No problem ;-)

M.

On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 12:43:31 +0200, Michael Pronay
wrote:

Steve Slatcher wrote:

Martha's Vineyard (see subject line)

And you think that a European/Asian wine geek has an idea about
where that is -

Er, yes.

OK, so let's ask te European/Asian regulars if they know where
"Martha's Vineyard" is - honest responses, please!

I (from the UK) knew it was off the East coast of the US. From memory
I seem to recall it was one of the first areas in the US to be
cultivated and.it is a very nice place for holidaying.

You knew enough about where it was to complain about
Americocentricity.

So that's 2 of us :-)

Additionally, I'd point out...

a) Google will tell anyone where Martha's Vineyard is with little or
no ambiguity.

b) It was a request for information. If you do not know where
Martha's Vineyard is, you will not be able to help. But you must
allow that some reading this NG will know, and may be able to help.

--
Steve Slatcher
http://pobox.com/~steve.slatcher

From memory eavh town Edgartown, Oak Bluffs, Tisbury have a liquor store
with a decent wine selection but definatly not cutting edge. Wine is sold
in supermarkets but its 99% Gallo, Woodbridge, very basic. Prices are higher
on the Island so depending on where you are coming from, you need to bring
your own. Restaurants are move adventerous but like any resort area, wines
wholesalers want to dump often end up in Nantucket and Martha's winelists. I
recommend stops in Providence RI or Boston.

The same holds true for groceries. If you have a place for a week and are
taking the ferry, you could stock up before you get the Cape, except for
perishables.
"Steve Slatcher" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 12:43:31 +0200, Michael Pronay
wrote:

Steve Slatcher wrote:

Martha's Vineyard (see subject line)

And you think that a European/Asian wine geek has an idea about
where that is -

Er, yes.

OK, so let's ask te European/Asian regulars if they know where
"Martha's Vineyard" is - honest responses, please!

I (from the UK) knew it was off the East coast of the US. From memory
I seem to recall it was one of the first areas in the US to be
cultivated and.it is a very nice place for holidaying.

You knew enough about where it was to complain about
Americocentricity.

So that's 2 of us :-)

Additionally, I'd point out...

a) Google will tell anyone where Martha's Vineyard is with little or
no ambiguity.

b) It was a request for information. If you do not know where
Martha's Vineyard is, you will not be able to help. But you must
allow that some reading this NG will know, and may be able to help.

--
Steve Slatcher
http://pobox.com/~steve.slatcher

in article , Michael Pronay at
wrote on 7/17/05 1:39 AM:

Steve Slatcher wrote:

And that's where on this planet? British Columbia, Kent, New
South Wales, Tansania?

Martha's Vineyard (see subject line)

And you think that a European/Asian wine geek has an idea about
where that is - except for the origin of Heitz's Napa bottling, of
course?

Strange americanocentric approach in an international newsgroup.

M.

On this fine summer Sunday morning, I don't much feel like taking on the
burden of a whole nation's tendency to sound as if we're the only ones using
the internet, or to ascribe anything other than good-natured leg-pulling to
the offended soul.

The Kennedy clan (Father Joe, Mother Rose, sons John, Bobby, Ted, Joe Jr.;
sisters Eunice, Rosemary, Kathleen, Patricia, Jean) brought a certain amount
of attention to this island off the coast of the Massachusetts colony, long
after the Wampanoag Indian tribe settled it, and after the first British
ship arrived, in 1602. Not that many outside the US would necessarily
recall, but John F. Kennedy Jr. was on his way there when his plane crashed
in 1999.

Perhaps this will also help?? )

http://www.chicamavineyards.com/

or this?

http://www.mvgazette.com/travel/vineyard_history/

Respectfully submitted,

Midlife
San Clemente, California, USA
33.42 degrees North Latitude
117.62 degrees West Longitude

"Midlife" skrev i melding
...
in article , Michael Pronay at
wrote on 7/17/05 1:39 AM:


The Kennedy clan (Father Joe, Mother Rose, sons John, Bobby, Ted, Joe Jr.;
sisters Eunice, Rosemary, Kathleen, Patricia, Jean) brought a certain
amount
of attention to this island off the coast of the Massachusetts colony,
long
after the Wampanoag Indian tribe settled it, and after the first British
ship arrived, in 1602. Not that many outside the US would necessarily
recall, but John F. Kennedy Jr. was on his way there when his plane
crashed
in 1999.

Massachusetts? That's in the US, but where? My first thought was somewhere
Northeast, near Canada?
Kennedy we've heard about - but the plane crash you mention attracted little
interest in Europe, I seem to recall.
Anders

in article , Anders Tørneskog at
wrote on 7/17/05 8:59 AM:

Massachusetts? That's in the US, but where? My first thought was somewhere
Northeast, near Canada?
Kennedy we've heard about - but the plane crash you mention attracted little
interest in Europe, I seem to recall.
Anders

And I thought the winery on the island would provide a bridge of
understanding.... but, alas.

My favorite mapping site will not provide specific directions from Oslo (if
I'm right about that) to Martha's Vineyard (though that failure, itself, may
be at the heart of the problem here). But, if you should happen to be out
and about...........

41.40 North Latitude 70.62 West Longitude


)

Thanks Joseph for your reply to the subject matter.

I actually hate posting to newsgroups for the very reason the chap that was
pointing out the 'americocentricity' of my note - I guess it must be
'northamericocentricity' as I'm from Canada. That said, I love Amercans,
America and most to do with her, I have little patience for those that do
not simply for the sake of it.

Regards,

- Ian

"Joseph B. Rosenberg" wrote in message
...
From memory eavh town Edgartown, Oak Bluffs, Tisbury have a liquor store
with a decent wine selection but definatly not cutting edge. Wine is sold
in supermarkets but its 99% Gallo, Woodbridge, very basic. Prices are
higher
on the Island so depending on where you are coming from, you need to bring
your own. Restaurants are move adventerous but like any resort area,
wines
wholesalers want to dump often end up in Nantucket and Martha's winelists.
I
recommend stops in Providence RI or Boston.

The same holds true for groceries. If you have a place for a week and are
taking the ferry, you could stock up before you get the Cape, except for
perishables.
"Steve Slatcher" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 12:43:31 +0200, Michael Pronay
wrote:

Steve Slatcher wrote:

Martha's Vineyard (see subject line)

And you think that a European/Asian wine geek has an idea about
where that is -

Er, yes.

OK, so let's ask te European/Asian regulars if they know where
"Martha's Vineyard" is - honest responses, please!

I (from the UK) knew it was off the East coast of the US. From memory
I seem to recall it was one of the first areas in the US to be
cultivated and.it is a very nice place for holidaying.

You knew enough about where it was to complain about
Americocentricity.

So that's 2 of us :-)

Additionally, I'd point out...

a) Google will tell anyone where Martha's Vineyard is with little or
no ambiguity.

b) It was a request for information. If you do not know where
Martha's Vineyard is, you will not be able to help. But you must
allow that some reading this NG will know, and may be able to help.

--
Steve Slatcher
http://pobox.com/~steve.slatcher

On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 15:59:45 GMT, "Anders T=F8rneskog" sredna.goksenrot@i2=
c.ten said:

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] sisters Eunice, Rosemary, Kathleen, Patricia, Jean) brought a certain=20
] amount
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] recall, but John F. Kennedy Jr. was on his way there when his plane=20
] crashed
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The Kennedy crash was extensively covered by the media here in France.

Sorry I can't help with a rec, I haven't been to the island for many years,
as we've got friends with a nice restaurant on Nantucket: "Company of
the Cauldron," which I hereby plug.

Oddly I got a phone call from Edgartown this afternoon!=20

-E
--=20
Emery Davis
You can reply to
by removing the well known companies

in article , I/C TARRANT at
wrote on 7/17/05 11:44 AM:

Thanks Joseph for your reply to the subject matter.

I actually hate posting to newsgroups for the very reason the chap that was
pointing out the 'americocentricity' of my note - I guess it must be
'northamericocentricity' as I'm from Canada. That said, I love Amercans,
America and most to do with her, I have little patience for those that do
not simply for the sake of it.

Regards,

- Ian

"Joseph B. Rosenberg" wrote in message
...
From memory eavh town Edgartown, Oak Bluffs, Tisbury have a liquor store
with a decent wine selection but definatly not cutting edge. Wine is sold
in supermarkets but its 99% Gallo, Woodbridge, very basic. Prices are
higher
on the Island so depending on where you are coming from, you need to bring
your own. Restaurants are move adventerous but like any resort area,
wines
wholesalers want to dump often end up in Nantucket and Martha's winelists.
I
recommend stops in Providence RI or Boston.

The same holds true for groceries. If you have a place for a week and are
taking the ferry, you could stock up before you get the Cape, except for
perishables.
"Steve Slatcher" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 12:43:31 +0200, Michael Pronay
wrote:

Steve Slatcher wrote:

Martha's Vineyard (see subject line)

And you think that a European/Asian wine geek has an idea about
where that is -

Er, yes.

OK, so let's ask te European/Asian regulars if they know where
"Martha's Vineyard" is - honest responses, please!

I (from the UK) knew it was off the East coast of the US. From memory
I seem to recall it was one of the first areas in the US to be
cultivated and.it is a very nice place for holidaying.

You knew enough about where it was to complain about
Americocentricity.

So that's 2 of us :-)

Additionally, I'd point out...

a) Google will tell anyone where Martha's Vineyard is with little or
no ambiguity.

b) It was a request for information. If you do not know where
Martha's Vineyard is, you will not be able to help. But you must
allow that some reading this NG will know, and may be able to help.

--
Steve Slatcher
http://pobox.com/~steve.slatcher


While it obviously gets to me a bit as well, I really do understand that it
is presumptuous of anyone to assume worldwide knowledge of things that may
not be that obvious to others, especially in a medium that has so many
posters from all over the planet. While this reaction is infrequent here,
and is usually quite tongue-in-cheek (as I believe Anders to be, and was
playing back), there is a definite sensitivity that's apparent if you read
this board over time.

I think the reaction is mostly based on a perceived lack of courtesy in
disenfranchising those not familiar with the subject. But, it also is
simply what you state. People tend to want to punish what they feel is
arrogance, and the bigger the target...........

Don't take it personally. This is almost entirely a group of extremely
knowledgeable and civil posters. The OP being one of the most so. But he can
speak for himself, it he so chooses.

"Midlife" skrev i melding news:BEFFEDB0.DE82%
And I thought the winery on the island would provide a bridge of
understanding.... but, alas.

My favorite mapping site will not provide specific directions from Oslo
(if I'm right about that) to Martha's Vineyard (though that failure,
itself, may be at the heart of the problem here). But, if you should
happen to be out and about...........

41.40 North Latitude 70.62 West Longitude

:-)
Actually, I had a fair idea as to the whereabouts of this island (and
located it south of Boston with the aid of mapquest, thought it was more
north, though)
The point is that the average European,Asian, African or Latino wouldn't
have any idea about that, much less the wine(yard).
anders