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Television alert: Robert Parker on Charlie Rose Feb 14



 
 
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Old 14-02-2005, 09:25 PM
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Default Television alert: Robert Parker on Charlie Rose Feb 14

For those who get PBS (American public television), Robert Parker is a
guest on Charlie Rose tonight. Check local listings for exact time.
Some stations rerun the show the next day as well (e.g. KQED in San
Francisco).
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Old 16-02-2005, 02:15 PM
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This was a new show. I thought he was a bit harsh on Aussie wines with
his comments regarding the mechanization of the industry there. I
thought that Charlie Rose was a bit patronizing (for an interviewer)
and stepped all over Parker while he was talking which was a bit
annoying.

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Old 16-02-2005, 02:15 PM
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This was a new show. I thought he was a bit harsh on Aussie wines with
his comments regarding the mechanization of the industry there. I
thought that Charlie Rose was a bit patronizing (for an interviewer)
and stepped all over Parker while he was talking which was a bit
annoying.

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Old 16-02-2005, 02:50 PM
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:24:10 GMT, "dick neidich" said:

] I went to charlierose.com and he does have tapes and transcipts but only on
] shows up to 2/11/2005. Therefore they must have a few days of delay.
]
] I missed the show and want to see or read.
]
] Any other highlights anyone want to share from interview?
]

Doesn't anyone in the US have TIVO??? (God's gift to television.)

If so, how about banging it off to DVD?

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Old 16-02-2005, 02:50 PM
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 14:24:10 GMT, "dick neidich" said:

] I went to charlierose.com and he does have tapes and transcipts but only on
] shows up to 2/11/2005. Therefore they must have a few days of delay.
]
] I missed the show and want to see or read.
]
] Any other highlights anyone want to share from interview?
]

Doesn't anyone in the US have TIVO??? (God's gift to television.)

If so, how about banging it off to DVD?

-E



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Old 16-02-2005, 02:57 PM
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Bi!! wrote:
This was a new show. I thought he was a bit harsh on Aussie wines with
his comments regarding the mechanization of the industry there. I
thought that Charlie Rose was a bit patronizing (for an interviewer)
and stepped all over Parker while he was talking which was a bit
annoying.


Apparently Parker and Rose are close buddies and have traveled together
on tasting trips. Rose was very careful to elicit from Parker his credo of
accepting nothing in the form of a gift or bribe that could tarnish his
reputation. I thought overall it was a great program because it allowed
Parker to lay out all his philosophy of wine. He started out by saying he
was a Francophile but then talked about the democratic nature of ignoring
the pedigree of the wine and rating them on their merits. He also talked
numerous times about young people in the wine industry trying to make great
wines and how he liked to recognize them with good ratings to help them get
going. On the negative side, Charlie Rose was just a little to buddy buddy
at times and detracted from what Parker was saying. Parker praised his two
minions and said between the three of them they knew more about wine than
the rest of the world combined. Leading into the new wine movie about
globalization of the industry, the Australian "industrialized wine business"
certainly did take a beating. I don't think he had one good word about Oz
wine. He also seemed to have a lot of bad words about Italian wines. There
was no mention of German or Austrian wines that I heard.
Bill
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Old 16-02-2005, 02:57 PM
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Bi!! wrote:
This was a new show. I thought he was a bit harsh on Aussie wines with
his comments regarding the mechanization of the industry there. I
thought that Charlie Rose was a bit patronizing (for an interviewer)
and stepped all over Parker while he was talking which was a bit
annoying.


Apparently Parker and Rose are close buddies and have traveled together
on tasting trips. Rose was very careful to elicit from Parker his credo of
accepting nothing in the form of a gift or bribe that could tarnish his
reputation. I thought overall it was a great program because it allowed
Parker to lay out all his philosophy of wine. He started out by saying he
was a Francophile but then talked about the democratic nature of ignoring
the pedigree of the wine and rating them on their merits. He also talked
numerous times about young people in the wine industry trying to make great
wines and how he liked to recognize them with good ratings to help them get
going. On the negative side, Charlie Rose was just a little to buddy buddy
at times and detracted from what Parker was saying. Parker praised his two
minions and said between the three of them they knew more about wine than
the rest of the world combined. Leading into the new wine movie about
globalization of the industry, the Australian "industrialized wine business"
certainly did take a beating. I don't think he had one good word about Oz
wine. He also seemed to have a lot of bad words about Italian wines. There
was no mention of German or Austrian wines that I heard.
Bill
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Old 16-02-2005, 03:32 PM
Mat
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Bi!! wrote:

This was a new show. I thought he was a bit harsh on Aussie wines with
his comments regarding the mechanization of the industry there. I
thought that Charlie Rose was a bit patronizing (for an interviewer)
and stepped all over Parker while he was talking which was a bit
annoying.



Seems to be an increasing trend, bashing Australian wine and wine
production / techniques etc.

Has been going on for some time. In fact coincidently I was watching
that Jancis Robinson[?]'s Wine Course, from 1996 I think it was, and
they weren't really bashing Australia, but saying how everything is all
science.

They did however say a lot of growers / producers etc were going back to
old world techniques.

Bare in mind the show was circa 1996.

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Old 16-02-2005, 03:41 PM
Mat
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Bill Loftin wrote:

Bi!! wrote:

This was a new show. I thought he was a bit harsh on Aussie wines with
his comments regarding the mechanization of the industry there. I
thought that Charlie Rose was a bit patronizing (for an interviewer)
and stepped all over Parker while he was talking which was a bit
annoying.



Apparently Parker and Rose are close buddies and have traveled together
on tasting trips. Rose was very careful to elicit from Parker his credo of
accepting nothing in the form of a gift or bribe that could tarnish his
reputation. I thought overall it was a great program because it allowed
Parker to lay out all his philosophy of wine. He started out by saying he
was a Francophile but then talked about the democratic nature of ignoring
the pedigree of the wine and rating them on their merits. He also talked
numerous times about young people in the wine industry trying to make great
wines and how he liked to recognize them with good ratings to help them get
going. On the negative side, Charlie Rose was just a little to buddy buddy
at times and detracted from what Parker was saying. Parker praised his two
minions and said between the three of them they knew more about wine than
the rest of the world combined. Leading into the new wine movie about
globalization of the industry, the Australian "industrialized wine
business"
certainly did take a beating. I don't think he had one good word about Oz
wine. He also seemed to have a lot of bad words about Italian wines. There
was no mention of German or Austrian wines that I heard.
Bill



I'm starting to wonder if Robert Parker having the power to make and
break producers, if not regions or even countries is a bad thing.

This of course follows on from the old chestnut of making wines
specifically just for tastings, leading to fruit bombs with the subtely
of an elephant in flares.

For me personally Parker does not appear to have an awful lot of sway
here in Oz for the average person, in fact hardly anyone here has heard
of him barring of course wine groupies and industry types. We are
relatively insulated from him here anyway. Overseas it is probably quite
a different story.


On the other hand, the great masses of everyman friendly wine Australia
produces is probably a threat to a lot of wine buffs who feel it is
sacrilige even to convert non-wine drinkers using highly boring but
friendly quaffers.

We do also produce some quite excellent premium wines most people would
agree. I think both can live quite nicely next to each other.


What new wine drinker will pay 100's of dollars for a wine they've never
had, and equally what wine buff will drink say a Yellowtail Shiraz as a
"special" wine?

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Old 16-02-2005, 05:30 PM
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Mat wrote:
Bill Loftin wrote:

Bi!! wrote:

This was a new show. I thought he was a bit harsh on Aussie wines

with
his comments regarding the mechanization of the industry there. I
thought that Charlie Rose was a bit patronizing (for an

interviewer)
and stepped all over Parker while he was talking which was a bit
annoying.



Apparently Parker and Rose are close buddies and have traveled

together
on tasting trips. Rose was very careful to elicit from Parker his

credo of
accepting nothing in the form of a gift or bribe that could tarnish

his
reputation. I thought overall it was a great program because it

allowed
Parker to lay out all his philosophy of wine. He started out by

saying he
was a Francophile but then talked about the democratic nature of

ignoring
the pedigree of the wine and rating them on their merits. He also

talked
numerous times about young people in the wine industry trying to

make great
wines and how he liked to recognize them with good ratings to help

them get
going. On the negative side, Charlie Rose was just a little to

buddy buddy
at times and detracted from what Parker was saying. Parker praised

his two
minions and said between the three of them they knew more about

wine than
the rest of the world combined. Leading into the new wine movie

about
globalization of the industry, the Australian "industrialized wine
business"
certainly did take a beating. I don't think he had one good word

about Oz
wine. He also seemed to have a lot of bad words about Italian

wines. There
was no mention of German or Austrian wines that I heard.
Bill



I'm starting to wonder if Robert Parker having the power to make and
break producers, if not regions or even countries is a bad thing.

This of course follows on from the old chestnut of making wines
specifically just for tastings, leading to fruit bombs with the

subtely
of an elephant in flares.

For me personally Parker does not appear to have an awful lot of sway


here in Oz for the average person, in fact hardly anyone here has

heard
of him barring of course wine groupies and industry types. We are
relatively insulated from him here anyway. Overseas it is probably

quite
a different story.


On the other hand, the great masses of everyman friendly wine

Australia
produces is probably a threat to a lot of wine buffs who feel it is
sacrilige even to convert non-wine drinkers using highly boring but
friendly quaffers.

We do also produce some quite excellent premium wines most people

would
agree. I think both can live quite nicely next to each other.


What new wine drinker will pay 100's of dollars for a wine they've

never
had, and equally what wine buff will drink say a Yellowtail Shiraz as

a
"special" wine?


Maybe I didn't pay close enough attention, but the only time I heard
Parker say anything demeaning about Oz wine was when he mentioned that
he had a friend in Haut Brion who tends to look down his nose at ALL
new world wine, and he couldn't understand why Parker was giving high
ratings to some of those wines.

Dan-O

 




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