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Old 09-02-2005, 11:28 PM
Chris Sprague
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I've been searching for a decent bottle of Red Burgundy that I may serve
with a dinner I'm preparing, of herbed pork tenderloin. I scoured this
group and got some recommendations, none of which I've been able to find
locally (Portland, ME). The only shop with a decent selection is Browne
Trading, and comparing their prices with the median prices I've seen on
wine-searcher reveals that their prices for mid range and up Bordeaux, Port,
and Burgundy are about 200% market price (as an example, they're selling a
bottle of 1996 Carruades de Lafite for $125, where I can buy the same bottle
2 blocks away for $58, which may still be above the median for this).

Anyway...

Two wines that I've had two different shop owners recommend are wines that I
cannot find any reference to in this group. They a

2002 Dom. François Raquillet Mercurey Rouge Vieilles Vignes
2002 Dom. Brintet Mercurey Rouge Les Vieilles Vignes

They are both selling for around $28USD locally. Does anyone know anything
about these wines? I've googled this group's history and have found
nothing. Any help would be appreciated.

If anybody can recommend a widely available California or Oregon Pinot Noir,
I might chose to do that instead. Maine is a bit behind the times when it
comes to Burgundy and Pinot Noir, though. I can get literally any Bordeaux
I want, just about anywhere decent, but the selection of Burg. and PN are
about nill everywhere. Odd.

- Chris


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Old 10-02-2005, 02:20 AM
CabFan
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On 9-Feb-2005, "Chris Sprague"
wrote:

I've been searching for a decent bottle of Red Burgundy that I may serve
with a dinner I'm preparing, of herbed pork tenderloin. I scoured this
group and got some recommendations, none of which I've been able to find
locally (Portland, ME). The only shop with a decent selection is Browne
Trading, and comparing their prices with the median prices I've seen on
wine-searcher reveals that their prices for mid range and up Bordeaux,
Port,
and Burgundy are about 200% market price (as an example, they're selling a
bottle of 1996 Carruades de Lafite for $125, where I can buy the same
bottle
2 blocks away for $58, which may still be above the median for this).

Anyway...

Two wines that I've had two different shop owners recommend are wines that
I
cannot find any reference to in this group. They a

2002 Dom. François Raquillet Mercurey Rouge Vieilles Vignes
2002 Dom. Brintet Mercurey Rouge Les Vieilles Vignes

They are both selling for around $28USD locally. Does anyone know anything
about these wines? I've googled this group's history and have found
nothing. Any help would be appreciated.

If anybody can recommend a widely available California or Oregon Pinot
Noir,
I might chose to do that instead. Maine is a bit behind the times when it
comes to Burgundy and Pinot Noir, though. I can get literally any
Bordeaux
I want, just about anywhere decent, but the selection of Burg. and PN are
about nill everywhere. Odd.

- Chris


Chris, I wish that I knew more about Burgundy and could help you on that
score but alas it is one region where (mainly because of pricing) I just
haven't ventured much. I have seen both of the wines you've mentioned, but
have no direct experience with them to guide you. The only thing that I can
say is that I believe 2002 was a better vintage than typical for
Burgundy.... or was it 2001? See what I mean

On the other hand, we grill and roast pork tenderloin on a regular basis and
Oregon Pinot Noir always seems to work well. A relatively new one in Alabma
is Walnut City Wineworks Reserve for about $22. It's hard to imagine a good
quality, reserve label Pinot for this price but it really shines. They make
a couple of single vineyard bottlings in the $35 range but we tend to stick
with the regular reserve.

One other suggestion, which may be out there but we like it nonetheless, is
a decent Valpolicella.

Good luck!
Gary
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Old 10-02-2005, 01:00 PM
gerald
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I don't know why you have your heart set on Burgundy(red). Consider a
quality German Reisling, or an Austrian Reisling.

Can you be shipped from out of state? If so, go to wine searcher and
buy there

On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 23:28:06 GMT, "Chris Sprague"
wrote:

I've been searching for a decent bottle of Red Burgundy that I may serve
with a dinner I'm preparing, of herbed pork tenderloin. I scoured this
group and got some recommendations, none of which I've been able to find
locally (Portland, ME). The only shop with a decent selection is Browne
Trading, and comparing their prices with the median prices I've seen on
wine-searcher reveals that their prices for mid range and up Bordeaux, Port,
and Burgundy are about 200% market price (as an example, they're selling a
bottle of 1996 Carruades de Lafite for $125, where I can buy the same bottle
2 blocks away for $58, which may still be above the median for this).

Anyway...

Two wines that I've had two different shop owners recommend are wines that I
cannot find any reference to in this group. They a

2002 Dom. François Raquillet Mercurey Rouge Vieilles Vignes
2002 Dom. Brintet Mercurey Rouge Les Vieilles Vignes

They are both selling for around $28USD locally. Does anyone know anything
about these wines? I've googled this group's history and have found
nothing. Any help would be appreciated.

If anybody can recommend a widely available California or Oregon Pinot Noir,
I might chose to do that instead. Maine is a bit behind the times when it
comes to Burgundy and Pinot Noir, though. I can get literally any Bordeaux
I want, just about anywhere decent, but the selection of Burg. and PN are
about nill everywhere. Odd.

- Chris


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Old 10-02-2005, 02:04 PM
Emery Davis
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On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 23:28:06 GMT, "Chris Sprague" .=
adelphia.net said:

[]
] Anyway...
]=20
] Two wines that I've had two different shop owners recommend are wines tha=
t I
] cannot find any reference to in this group. They a
]=20
] 2002 Dom. Fran=E7ois Raquillet Mercurey Rouge Vieilles Vignes
] 2002 Dom. Brintet Mercurey Rouge Les Vieilles Vignes
]=20
] They are both selling for around $28USD locally. Does anyone know anything
] about these wines? I've googled this group's history and have found
] nothing. Any help would be appreciated.
]=20

Hi Chris,=20

As a sometime fellow mainiac I thought I'd try to help. Not that I can off=
er much.
I don't know either of the wines in question. I read that Raquillet tends =
to like a lot
of oak, balanced with round fruit. For Luc Brintet I have note only on a M=
ercury Blanc
that appears fresh and acidic. Acid is not typically hard to come by in Me=
rcury. Seems
like a good winemaker though, might be worth a shot.

You might want to try to get hold of something from Saintsbury, their pinot=
s are
widely available and well made to my tastes, even at the lower end.

HTH a little,

-E


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Old 10-02-2005, 03:56 PM
DaleW
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Chris,
Sorry I can't help, don't know either wine. As a generality 2002 was an
excellent vintage in the C=F4te Chalonaise, though.

Portland is a tough place to wine shop. Some decent selections at
Browne and that place near the downtown market, but prices sky high.

I did find some interesting Italian stuff in that place (The Clown?)
that's downstairs in an antique shop. Including some old Jermanns for
$5!

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Old 10-02-2005, 06:52 PM
mjsverei@syr.edu
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Chris Sprague wrote:
I've been searching for a decent bottle of Red Burgundy that I may

serve
with a dinner I'm preparing, of herbed pork tenderloin. I scoured

this
group and got some recommendations, none of which I've been able to

find
locally (Portland, ME).

snip-snip

Chris, do you have any reason to go down to Boston? Great selection
down there if you can do the 3-hour drive...

Mark

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Old 11-02-2005, 03:32 AM
Chris Sprague
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"DaleW" wrote in message
oups.com...
Chris,
Sorry I can't help, don't know either wine. As a generality 2002 was an
excellent vintage in the Cte Chalonaise, though.

Portland is a tough place to wine shop. Some decent selections at
Browne and that place near the downtown market, but prices sky high.

I did find some interesting Italian stuff in that place (The Clown?)
that's downstairs in an antique shop. Including some old Jermanns for
$5!


Thanks for the suggestion The Clown. This is indeed one of the two
places where this wine was recommended to me.


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Old 11-02-2005, 03:34 AM
Chris Sprague
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wrote in message
oups.com...

Chris, do you have any reason to go down to Boston? Great selection
down there if you can do the 3-hour drive...

Mark


I was down in Boston last weekend, for the Extreme Beer Fest. I didn't have
time to visit any wine shops, however. In any case, I need this for Sunday
night, and I won't have time to drive down there (or even to NH, for that
matter) before then.

Btw, Boston is only about 1 hour and 45 minutes from Portland, not 3. Its
almost exactly 100 miles

- Chris


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Old 11-02-2005, 03:54 AM
uraniumcommittee@yahoo.com
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Chris Sprague wrote:
I've been searching for a decent bottle of Red Burgundy that I may

serve
with a dinner I'm preparing, of herbed pork tenderloin. I scoured

this
group and got some recommendations, none of which I've been able to

find
locally (Portland, ME). The only shop with a decent selection is

Browne
Trading, and comparing their prices with the median prices I've seen

on
wine-searcher reveals that their prices for mid range and up

Bordeaux, Port,
and Burgundy are about 200% market price (as an example, they're

selling a
bottle of 1996 Carruades de Lafite for $125, where I can buy the same

bottle
2 blocks away for $58, which may still be above the median for this).

Anyway...

Two wines that I've had two different shop owners recommend are wines

that I
cannot find any reference to in this group. They a

2002 Dom. Fran=E7ois Raquillet Mercurey Rouge Vieilles Vignes
2002 Dom. Brintet Mercurey Rouge Les Vieilles Vignes

They are both selling for around $28USD locally. Does anyone know

anything
about these wines? I've googled this group's history and have found
nothing. Any help would be appreciated.

If anybody can recommend a widely available California or Oregon

Pinot Noir,
I might chose to do that instead. Maine is a bit behind the times

when it
comes to Burgundy and Pinot Noir, though. I can get literally any

Bordeaux
I want, just about anywhere decent, but the selection of Burg. and PN

are
about nill everywhere. Odd.
=20
- Chris


I'd go with a Brunello anyway....

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Old 11-02-2005, 03:44 PM
Ian Hoare
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Salut/Hi gerald,

On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 23:28:06 GMT, "Chris Sprague"
wrote:

I've been searching for a decent bottle of Red Burgundy that I may serve
with a dinner I'm preparing, of herbed pork tenderloin.


Thu, 10 Feb 2005 08:00:32 -0500, tu disais/you said:-

I don't know why you have your heart set on Burgundy(red). Consider a
quality German Reisling, or an Austrian Reisling.


With respect, Gerald, if he says it is, it is.. If you ask for me to suggest
a Cahors to go with your Cassoulet and I suggest three Gaillac whites and
some Irouleguy, wouldn't you be a tad confused?


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Old 25-02-2005, 11:07 AM
Tam
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On 9/2/05 11:28 pm, in article ,
"Chris Sprague" wrote:

Two wines that I've had two different shop owners recommend are wines that I
cannot find any reference to in this group. They a

2002 Dom. François Raquillet Mercurey Rouge Vieilles Vignes
2002 Dom. Brintet Mercurey Rouge Les Vieilles Vignes

They are both selling for around $28USD locally. Does anyone know anything
about these wines? I've googled this group's history and have found
nothing. Any help would be appreciated.


I did a Wine Spectator search for mercurey, which you can see for the next
72 hours or so at
http://members.fortunecity.com/legalstuff/mercurey.html
(Some formatting is lost; I didn't have time to fix all the html, and it
doesn't affect the text. Obviously the interactive features won't work
unless you're a subscriber too.)

Note the relatively low scores which say two things: (1) that Mercurey isn't
very fashionable among US drinkers (I think of it as a Supermarket wine in
France too, but that's my prejudice) and (2) retailers follow fashion.

One suggestion I have for you is to frequent the Web sites of the top New
York and West Coast wine merchants. Zachy's and Sherry-Lehmann come to mind
http://www.zachys.com/
http://www.sherry-lehmann.com/

Hope that helps.

 




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