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The widows of Champagne



 
 
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Old 30-12-2004, 11:21 PM
Leo Bueno
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Default The widows of Champagne


I find it somewhat curiously odd that several of the great Champagne
houses were created or managed or owned, etc., by widows. So, I
started to put together a list of these grand ladies.

By the way, there is an interesting twist to the Champagne widow
phenomenon. Some houses started inventing widows as a marketing tool.
See http://www.thebhc.org/publications/B...0505-p0514.pdf

Thanks.

Here is what I have so far (of the *real* widows). Will appreciate
your help in filling the gaps and the likely omissions.

WIDOW (HOUSE)

Louise Pommery (Pommery)

Mathilde Emilie Perrier (Laurent-Perrier)

Marie-Louise de Nonancourt (Laurent-Perrier)

??? (Roederer)

??? (Lanson)

Lily Bollinger (Bollinger)

? Binet (???)

? Loche (???)


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Old 30-12-2004, 11:39 PM
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Leo Bueno wrote in
:

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Here is what I have so far (of the *real* widows). Will appreciate
your help in filling the gaps and the likely omissions.

WIDOW (HOUSE)

Louise Pommery (Pommery)

Mathilde Emilie Perrier (Laurent-Perrier)

Marie-Louise de Nonancourt (Laurent-Perrier)

??? (Roederer)

??? (Lanson)

Lily Bollinger (Bollinger)

? Binet (???)

? Loche (???)


Veuve Clicquot!
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Old 31-12-2004, 12:17 AM
Bill Loftin
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Leo Bueno wrote:

I find it somewhat curiously odd that several of the great Champagne
houses were created or managed or owned, etc., by widows. So, I
started to put together a list of these grand ladies.
Louise Pommery (Pommery)
Mathilde Emilie Perrier (Laurent-Perrier)
Marie-Louise de Nonancourt (Laurent-Perrier)
Lily Bollinger (Bollinger)


I just went through Jancis Ronbinson's wine course DVD today
with the last chapter being on Champagne and not one widow in
sight. Not one female in sight.

Another rather controversial revaluation today is that the bubbles
in the Champagne are due to dust. In a dust free environment and
a dust free glass, there are no bubbles. They even demonstrated it
on TV tonight.
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Old 31-12-2004, 12:45 AM
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Here is what I have so far (of the *real* widows). Will appreciate
your help in filling the gaps and the likely omissions.

WIDOW (HOUSE)

Louise Pommery (Pommery)

Mathilde Emilie Perrier (Laurent-Perrier)

Marie-Louise de Nonancourt (Laurent-Perrier)

??? (Roederer)

??? (Lanson)

Lily Bollinger (Bollinger)

? Binet (???)

? Loche (???)


Leo,

Am I missing something here with your reference to "real" widows? To me the
most famous is Madame Ponsardin, aka Veuve Cliquot. Is she not considered real?



Dale

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Old 31-12-2004, 12:49 AM
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On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 23:39:47 +0000 (UTC), enoavidh
wrote:

Leo Bueno wrote in
:

snip
Here is what I have so far (of the *real* widows). Will appreciate
your help in filling the gaps and the likely omissions.

WIDOW (HOUSE)

Louise Pommery (Pommery)

Mathilde Emilie Perrier (Laurent-Perrier)

Marie-Louise de Nonancourt (Laurent-Perrier)

??? (Roederer)

??? (Lanson)

Lily Bollinger (Bollinger)

? Binet (???)

? Loche (???)


Veuve Clicquot!


She is Nicole Ponsardin, who was at the top of the original list.

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Old 31-12-2004, 12:55 AM
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I find it somewhat curiously odd that several of the great Champagne
houses were created or managed or owned, etc., by widows. So, I
started to put together a list of these grand ladies.

By the way, there is an interesting twist to the Champagne widow
phenomenon. Some houses started inventing widows as a marketing tool.
See http://www.thebhc.org/publications/B...0505-p0514.pdf

Thanks.

Here is what I have so far (of the *real* widows). Will appreciate
your help in filling the gaps and the likely omissions.

WIDOW (HOUSE)

Louise Pommery (Pommery)

Mathilde Emilie Perrier (Laurent-Perrier)

Marie-Louise de Nonancourt (Laurent-Perrier)

??? (Roederer)

??? (Lanson)

Lily Bollinger (Bollinger)

? Binet (???)

? Loche (?)


Barbe Nicole Ponsardin Clicquot(Veuve Clicquot) perhaps the most impressive of
all of the widows.
Bi!!
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Old 31-12-2004, 01:04 AM
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Leo Bueno wrote in
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She is Nicole Ponsardin, who was at the top of the original list.


Sorry, I did not see her on your list.
P.S. née Ponsardin:
http://www.clicquotinc.com/vcp/about/related.asp
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Old 31-12-2004, 12:02 PM
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enoavidh wrote:

P.S. née Ponsardin:
http://www.clicquotinc.com/vcp/about/related.asp


They completely dropped the name "Werle", btw.

M.
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Old 31-12-2004, 04:25 PM
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http://www.champagne-veuve-fourny.com/

??

Jenny



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"Leo Bueno" schreef in bericht
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I find it somewhat curiously odd that several of the great Champagne
houses were created or managed or owned, etc., by widows. So, I
started to put together a list of these grand ladies.

By the way, there is an interesting twist to the Champagne widow
phenomenon. Some houses started inventing widows as a marketing tool.
See http://www.thebhc.org/publications/B...0505-p0514.pdf

Thanks.

Here is what I have so far (of the *real* widows). Will appreciate
your help in filling the gaps and the likely omissions.

WIDOW (HOUSE)

Louise Pommery (Pommery)

Mathilde Emilie Perrier (Laurent-Perrier)

Marie-Louise de Nonancourt (Laurent-Perrier)

??? (Roederer)

??? (Lanson)

Lily Bollinger (Bollinger)

? Binet (???)

? Loche (???)


--
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Visit the MIAMI WINE TASTERS group at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/miamiWINE
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Old 01-01-2005, 05:25 PM
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"enoavidh" wrote in message
5.40...
Leo Bueno wrote in
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snip
Here is what I have so far (of the *real* widows). Will appreciate
your help in filling the gaps and the likely omissions.

WIDOW (HOUSE)

Louise Pommery (Pommery)

Mathilde Emilie Perrier (Laurent-Perrier)

Marie-Louise de Nonancourt (Laurent-Perrier)

??? (Roederer)

??? (Lanson)

Lily Bollinger (Bollinger)

? Binet (???)

? Loche (???)


Veuve Clicquot!



Veuve A. Devaux. Was she a real widow?

Monika


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Old 03-01-2005, 08:33 AM
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Leo,

if you are interested in the subject of real champagne widows, take a look at

http://www.duval-leroy.com/New-ENG/D...E/frameset.htm

Belgian born Carole Duval-Leroy is probably today's equivalent to the famous champagne widows mentioned in your contribution.

Yves



"Leo Bueno" wrote in message ...

I find it somewhat curiously odd that several of the great Champagne
houses were created or managed or owned, etc., by widows. So, I
started to put together a list of these grand ladies.

By the way, there is an interesting twist to the Champagne widow
phenomenon. Some houses started inventing widows as a marketing tool.
See http://www.thebhc.org/publications/B...0505-p0514.pdf

Thanks.

Here is what I have so far (of the *real* widows). Will appreciate
your help in filling the gaps and the likely omissions.

WIDOW (HOUSE)

Louise Pommery (Pommery)

Mathilde Emilie Perrier (Laurent-Perrier)

Marie-Louise de Nonancourt (Laurent-Perrier)

??? (Roederer)

??? (Lanson)

Lily Bollinger (Bollinger)

? Binet (???)

? Loche (???)


--
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Do you like wine? Do you live in South Florida?
Visit the MIAMI WINE TASTERS group at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/miamiWINE
=================================================

 




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