The oldest winery in the Americas............In Mexico
Casa Madero, founded in 1597 in the Parras Valley of Mexico.
Who says there are no old vines in the Americas.

"Bill" wrote in message
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The oldest winery in the Americas............In Mexico
Casa Madero, founded in 1597 in the Parras Valley of Mexico.
Who says there are no old vines in the Americas.

I'll bet there are still older native vines in Norte Americana - and I don't
mean Labrusca: Norton/Cynthiana for one.

Tom S

On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 21:00:43 GMT, Bill
wrote:


The oldest winery in the Americas............In Mexico
Casa Madero, founded in 1597 in the Parras Valley of Mexico.
Who says there are no old vines in the Americas.

Seems the vikings might have made wine a lot earlier...

Juan de Gijalva tasted wine made by the aztecs from local labrusca in
1517. The wine tastes bad, and Hernan Cortes in 1524 orders 1000
plants of vinifera to be planted in Tenochtitlan; from there,
viticulture spreads all over New Spain. Already in 1589 Jose de Acosta
publishes a book describing wine consumption in America. Production
increases so much that it is competing with Spain, so Philip II
forbids wine production in the colonies, except California is allowed
to continue.




Mike Tommasi, Six Fours, France
email link http://www.tommasi.org/mymail

On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 21:00:43 GMT, Bill
wrote:


The oldest winery in the Americas............In Mexico
Casa Madero, founded in 1597 in the Parras Valley of Mexico.
Who says there are no old vines in the Americas.

Seems the vikings might have made wine a lot earlier...

Juan de Gijalva tasted wine made by the aztecs from local labrusca in
1517. The wine tastes bad, and Hernan Cortes in 1524 orders 1000
plants of vinifera to be planted in Tenochtitlan; from there,
viticulture spreads all over New Spain. Already in 1589 Jose de Acosta
publishes a book describing wine consumption in America. Production
increases so much that it is competing with Spain, so Philip II
forbids wine production in the colonies, except California is allowed
to continue.




Mike Tommasi, Six Fours, France
email link http://www.tommasi.org/mymail

On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 21:00:43 GMT, Bill
wrote:


The oldest winery in the Americas............In Mexico
Casa Madero, founded in 1597 in the Parras Valley of Mexico.
Who says there are no old vines in the Americas.

Seems the vikings might have made wine a lot earlier...

Juan de Gijalva tasted wine made by the aztecs from local labrusca in
1517. The wine tastes bad, and Hernan Cortes in 1524 orders 1000
plants of vinifera to be planted in Tenochtitlan; from there,
viticulture spreads all over New Spain. Already in 1589 Jose de Acosta
publishes a book describing wine consumption in America. Production
increases so much that it is competing with Spain, so Philip II
forbids wine production in the colonies, except California is allowed
to continue.




Mike Tommasi, Six Fours, France
email link http://www.tommasi.org/mymail

Tom S wrote:
"Bill" wrote in message
...
The oldest winery in the Americas............In Mexico
Casa Madero, founded in 1597 in the Parras Valley of Mexico.
Who says there are no old vines in the Americas.

I'll bet there are still older native vines in Norte Americana - and I don't
mean Labrusca: Norton/Cynthiana for one.

You think maybe the Vikings were making wine in Vineland? And of course
there was Sir Walter Raleigh's colony at Roanoke Island where Virginia
Dare was born. The first wine I ever drank was Virginia Dare, made in
Norfolk, VA. I wonder if it was the same winery. 1597 was long before
the Jamestown Colony.

Tom S wrote:
"Bill" wrote in message
...
The oldest winery in the Americas............In Mexico
Casa Madero, founded in 1597 in the Parras Valley of Mexico.
Who says there are no old vines in the Americas.

I'll bet there are still older native vines in Norte Americana - and I don't
mean Labrusca: Norton/Cynthiana for one.

You think maybe the Vikings were making wine in Vineland? And of course
there was Sir Walter Raleigh's colony at Roanoke Island where Virginia
Dare was born. The first wine I ever drank was Virginia Dare, made in
Norfolk, VA. I wonder if it was the same winery. 1597 was long before
the Jamestown Colony.

Bill wrote in
:


You think maybe the Vikings were making wine in Vineland? And of
course there was Sir Walter Raleigh's colony at Roanoke Island where
Virginia Dare was born. The first wine I ever drank was Virginia Dare,
made in Norfolk, VA. I wonder if it was the same winery. 1597 was long
before the Jamestown Colony.


Sorry, Bill:
http://www.virginiadare.com/history.htm

I used to see bottles of their wine, maybe 20-25 years ago? Only seen the
flavorings these days, and not frequently...

It was my mother's favorite, too!

d

Bill wrote in
:


You think maybe the Vikings were making wine in Vineland? And of
course there was Sir Walter Raleigh's colony at Roanoke Island where
Virginia Dare was born. The first wine I ever drank was Virginia Dare,
made in Norfolk, VA. I wonder if it was the same winery. 1597 was long
before the Jamestown Colony.


Sorry, Bill:
http://www.virginiadare.com/history.htm

I used to see bottles of their wine, maybe 20-25 years ago? Only seen the
flavorings these days, and not frequently...

It was my mother's favorite, too!

d