I just received a catalog that listed Riedel "O" glassware, and the
glasses were somewhat of a shock to me. They have no stems! They are 6
types, about the size and shape of Vinums, except the bottom of the
glass is flat with no stem - in other words a tumbler. The price is
fairly low, and they are made from non-lead crystal. Upon reading about
them, it turns out that they are made in Germany by Maximilian Riedel, a
grandson of Claus Riedel. I do not like this design much for red wine
and know I do not want a white wine glass without a stem for chilled
wines. At least they did not include a champagne glass in this design,
at least in the catalog.

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"Cwdjrx _" wrote in message
...
I just received a catalog that listed Riedel "O" glassware, and the
glasses were somewhat of a shock to me. They have no stems! They are 6
types, about the size and shape of Vinums, except the bottom of the
glass is flat with no stem - in other words a tumbler. The price is
fairly low, and they are made from non-lead crystal. Upon reading about
them, it turns out that they are made in Germany by Maximilian Riedel, a
grandson of Claus Riedel. I do not like this design much for red wine
and know I do not want a white wine glass without a stem for chilled
wines. At least they did not include a champagne glass in this design,
at least in the catalog.

My mailbox is always full to avoid spam. To contact me, erase
from my email address. Then add . I do not
check this box every day, so post if you need a quick response.


I'd read about these stemless tumblers about a month ago but forgot to post
the link where I first learned of them. There appears to be some demand for
them from those who are concerned about breakage. Amazon carries them.
I've thought about buying a set to replace some of the Spiegelau Authentis
stems I've bought on sale at Amazon (thanks to the sharp eyes of some
regulars in this newsgroup).
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...IG7U6JPND1.DTL

in article , Cwdjrx _ at
wrote on 6/9/04 8:37 PM:

I just received a catalog that listed Riedel "O" glassware, and the
glasses were somewhat of a shock to me. They have no stems! They are 6
types, about the size and shape of Vinums, except the bottom of the
glass is flat with no stem - in other words a tumbler. The price is
fairly low, and they are made from non-lead crystal. Upon reading about
them, it turns out that they are made in Germany by Maximilian Riedel, a
grandson of Claus Riedel. I do not like this design much for red wine
and know I do not want a white wine glass without a stem for chilled
wines. At least they did not include a champagne glass in this design,
at least in the catalog.


I've seen these glasses in catalogs for a couple of months myself. I don't
know if it's directly related but I recall seeing a TV show about Robert
Parker in which they made a point of showing the stemless glasses he uses
for tasting. The Riedel "O" series looks like a very similar style.

Midlife wrote in :

in article , Cwdjrx _ at
wrote on 6/9/04 8:37 PM:

I just received a catalog that listed Riedel "O" glassware, and the
glasses were somewhat of a shock to me. They have no stems! They are
6 types, about the size and shape of Vinums, except the bottom of the
glass is flat with no stem - in other words a tumbler. The price is
fairly low, and they are made from non-lead crystal. Upon reading
about them, it turns out that they are made in Germany by Maximilian
Riedel, a grandson of Claus Riedel. I do not like this design much
for red wine and know I do not want a white wine glass without a stem
for chilled wines. At least they did not include a champagne glass in
this design, at least in the catalog.


I've seen these glasses in catalogs for a couple of months myself. I
don't know if it's directly related but I recall seeing a TV show
about Robert Parker in which they made a point of showing the stemless
glasses he uses for tasting. The Riedel "O" series looks like a very
similar style.



I picked these up in Spain about 10 years ago while at the running of the
bulls. Easier to handle and less spilling when I drink too much.LOL


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"StocksRus®" wrote:

I picked these up in Spain about 10 years ago while at the
running of the bulls.

Bullshit. The have been around for less than a year only, designed
by Georg Riedel's son Maximilan.

M.

Michael Pronay wrote:
"StocksRus®" wrote:


I picked these up in Spain about 10 years ago while at the
running of the bulls.


Bullshit. The have been around for less than a year only, designed
by Georg Riedel's son Maximilan.

Hey, hey. I've certainly seen O-like tumblers, though not
from Riedel, before. It's not like someone, even Maximilan
Riedel, thought of something new in glassware.


Dana

Michael Pronay wrote in
:

"StocksRus®" wrote:

I picked these up in Spain about 10 years ago while at the
running of the bulls.

Bullshit. The have been around for less than a year only, designed
by Georg Riedel's son Maximilan.

M.

Really? Why would I lie about something as trivial as a tumbler? You
obviously know squat about what you talk about. You really think Riedel
designed these? You're an idiot.

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On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 04:32:23 GMT, " larkin1734"
wrote:
"Cwdjrx _" wrote in message
...
I just received a catalog that listed Riedel "O" glassware, and the
glasses were somewhat of a shock to me. They have no stems! They are 6

I'd read about these stemless tumblers about a month ago but forgot to post
the link where I first learned of them. There appears to be some demand for
them from those who are concerned about breakage. Amazon carries them.


Saw them this month in an Italian food magazine, as well. Interesting,
I don't think I've ever broken a Riedel glass at the stem; it's always
been a crack in the globe.

Wouldn't these have a tendency to warm up the wine a lot? Especially if
you're in a cocktail party setting where you can't set down the wine?
Oh, and what about all those little glass-identification charm-tags?
What will we do without a stem to put those on?

K

"StocksRus®" wrote:

You're an idiot.

*plonk*

M.

On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 12:38:35 GMT, "StocksRus®"
wrote:

Michael Pronay wrote in
:

"StocksRus®" wrote:

I picked these up in Spain about 10 years ago while at the
running of the bulls.

Bullshit. The have been around for less than a year only, designed
by Georg Riedel's son Maximilan.

M.

Really? Why would I lie about something as trivial as a tumbler? You
obviously know squat about what you talk about. You really think Riedel
designed these? You're an idiot.

The thread started with a specific reference to the Riedel stemless
glasses which, as M. Pronay said, have been on the market less than a
year. You said you bought them in Spain 10 years ago. Why would you
lie about something like this? You tell me. I know you are mistaken. I
just think you have a bad memory or didn't pay attention to what you
were replying to.

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Salut/Hi StocksRus®,

le/on Sun, 13 Jun 2004 12:38:35 GMT, tu disais/you said:-

I picked these up in Spain about 10 years ago while at the
running of the bulls.

Bullshit. The have been around for less than a year only, designed
by Georg Riedel's son Maximilan.

Really? Why would I lie about something as trivial as a tumbler? You
obviously know squat about what you talk about. You really think Riedel
designed these? You're an idiot.

Sigh. Max Hauser.... how would YOU (with your requests for tolerance for
newcomers) deal with this?

Whatever your name is. You might like to be a little more careful. The
thread was about Riedel stemless glasses, not any random glassware you may
have picked up in Pamplona. And excoriating Michael Proney, as an idiot when
it is you yourself who is in error, is not going to make you many friends.
You ought to apoligise quickly, and without reservation.

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Ian Hoare wrote in
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Salut/Hi StocksRus®,

le/on Sun, 13 Jun 2004 12:38:35 GMT, tu disais/you said:-

I picked these up in Spain about 10 years ago while at the
running of the bulls.

Bullshit. The have been around for less than a year only, designed
by Georg Riedel's son Maximilan.

Really? Why would I lie about something as trivial as a tumbler? You
obviously know squat about what you talk about. You really think
Riedel designed these? You're an idiot.

Sigh. Max Hauser.... how would YOU (with your requests for tolerance
for newcomers) deal with this?

Whatever your name is. You might like to be a little more careful. The
thread was about Riedel stemless glasses, not any random glassware you
may have picked up in Pamplona. And excoriating Michael Proney, as an
idiot when it is you yourself who is in error, is not going to make
you many friends. You ought to apoligise quickly, and without
reservation.


You are correct. I do apologize to the poster. I do however remain
adement about the fact that I did purchase the same design in Pamplona
many years ago. The fact that Riedel's kid is marketing them now as his
NEW design ****es me off. That design has been around for many years. For
some one to say differently is unbelievable.

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StocksRus®

Vino wrote in news:5vrrc0lq95i1mg2oltocqutcovqhogmc92@
4ax.com:

On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 12:38:35 GMT, "StocksRus®"
wrote:

Michael Pronay wrote in
:

"StocksRus®" wrote:

I picked these up in Spain about 10 years ago while at the
running of the bulls.

Bullshit. The have been around for less than a year only, designed
by Georg Riedel's son Maximilan.

M.

Really? Why would I lie about something as trivial as a tumbler? You
obviously know squat about what you talk about. You really think Riedel
designed these? You're an idiot.

The thread started with a specific reference to the Riedel stemless
glasses which, as M. Pronay said, have been on the market less than a
year. You said you bought them in Spain 10 years ago. Why would you
lie about something like this? You tell me. I know you are mistaken. I
just think you have a bad memory or didn't pay attention to what you
were replying to.

Vino
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I did NOT purchase Riedels design. Riedel copied a glass that has been
around for many years.
Geez......
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StocksRus®

in article , Ian Hoare at
wrote on 6/14/04 1:44 PM:


Sigh. Max Hauser.... how would YOU (with your requests for tolerance for
newcomers) deal with this?

Whatever your name is. You might like to be a little more careful. The
thread was about Riedel stemless glasses, not any random glassware you may
have picked up in Pamplona. And excoriating Michael Proney, as an idiot when
it is you yourself who is in error, is not going to make you many friends.
You ought to apoligise quickly, and without reservation.


FWIW......

Though an infrequent poster here, I do read the group almost every day.

When I saw the poster's comment that he had seen the stemless glasses so
long ago I knew two things for sure. One, he was almost certainly not
talking about Riedel product and two, that he was likely to pay dearly for
the transgression of not having properly stated and clarified his
observation.

I know I would post more often if I didn't feel it necessary to be
inordinately certain of my facts and just how I compose any post. Not that
one shouldn't always be as accurate as possible..... but some on this group
can sometimes be quite harsh in circumstances that wouldn't seem to warrant
such reaction. For many people, the instant response to such caustic
correction is to lash back.

"Sigh".... indeed.

"Midlife" wrote in message
...
in article , Ian Hoare at
wrote on 6/14/04 1:44 PM:


Sigh. Max Hauser.... how would YOU (with your requests for tolerance for
newcomers) deal with this?

Whatever your name is. You might like to be a little more careful. The
thread was about Riedel stemless glasses, not any random glassware you
may
have picked up in Pamplona. And excoriating Michael Proney, as an idiot
when
it is you yourself who is in error, is not going to make you many
friends.
You ought to apoligise quickly, and without reservation.


FWIW......

Though an infrequent poster here, I do read the group almost every day.

When I saw the poster's comment that he had seen the stemless glasses so
long ago I knew two things for sure. One, he was almost certainly not
talking about Riedel product and two, that he was likely to pay dearly for
the transgression of not having properly stated and clarified his
observation.

I know I would post more often if I didn't feel it necessary to be
inordinately certain of my facts and just how I compose any post. Not
that
one shouldn't always be as accurate as possible..... but some on this
group
can sometimes be quite harsh in circumstances that wouldn't seem to
warrant
such reaction. For many people, the instant response to such caustic
correction is to lash back.

FWIW, my first impulse was to jump to Ian's defense on this issue - but on
reflection, I think that's more appropriately left to him. So I will.

But that got me to pondering: Is AFW perhaps a bit too user-unfriendly
(cliquish?) to outsiders? If my first reaction was to circle the wagons,
what about the other regulars? It sounds like we may at times be perceived
a little too quick to criticism.

I've never been intimidated by the spelling and fact checkers among us, but
I can see where some might be. Such intimidation is not conducive to well
reasoned (if not articulate) dialog among us. After all, we're here to
discuss wine and food - not grammar. I'll be the first to admit that my own
experience with both is neither as deep nor as broad as I'd wish.

Anyway, after all that blathering, welcome aboard! :^)

Tom S

P.S. - IMO, the new Riedel "O" glassware is expensive crap! Just to keep it
on topic... ;^D