I just found out that I've been mispronouncing the name of my
glassware. Moreover, there are only two syllables in the name and
I've been mispronouncing both of them! Riedel must be a German name on
the basis of the old German pronunciation rule, "When two vowels go
a-walkin', the second one does the talkin'", but I understand that
the second syllable is pronounced as a "dle" sound rather than a
"dell", also a surprise to English speakers. So the end result is that
Riedel rhymes with needle. Anyone disagree?

I looked for a web page that listed the correct pronounciation. I
didn't find one, but did come across an interesting page on the Riedel
family history. Here's the URL:

http://www.riedelcrystal.com/page21.htm#CJR

Anyway, I'm glad to get that out of the way, now I can go back to
learning how to pronounce "savignon."


Regards,

Kent Feiler
www.KentFeiler.com

On 30-Mar-2004, Kent Feiler wrote:

I just found out that I've been mispronouncing the name of my
glassware. Moreover, there are only two syllables in the name and
I've been mispronouncing both of them! Riedel must be a German name on
the basis of the old German pronunciation rule, "When two vowels go
a-walkin', the second one does the talkin'", but I understand that
the second syllable is pronounced as a "dle" sound rather than a
"dell", also a surprise to English speakers. So the end result is that
Riedel rhymes with needle. Anyone disagree?

According to every Riedel sales rep I've ever talked to, they all say
"Reedle like Needle"

Hi Kent,

you have to pronounce it Ree-del, but you stress the first syllable, since
there is only one "l".
So you do pronounce the "e" in "del".

If you have a german word with an "i" or "ie" in it, it is always pronounced
"ee". If you have an "ei" then you pronounce it like the english "i".
Basically in german it is just the opposite from the english pronunciation.

That was "German I" for today, hope it was helpful.

Regards

Eb

"Kent Feiler" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
...
I just found out that I've been mispronouncing the name of my
glassware. Moreover, there are only two syllables in the name and
I've been mispronouncing both of them! Riedel must be a German name on
the basis of the old German pronunciation rule, "When two vowels go
a-walkin', the second one does the talkin'", but I understand that
the second syllable is pronounced as a "dle" sound rather than a
"dell", also a surprise to English speakers. So the end result is that
Riedel rhymes with needle. Anyone disagree?

I looked for a web page that listed the correct pronounciation. I
didn't find one, but did come across an interesting page on the Riedel
family history. Here's the URL:

http://www.riedelcrystal.com/page21.htm#CJR

Anyway, I'm glad to get that out of the way, now I can go back to
learning how to pronounce "savignon."


Regards,

Kent Feiler
www.KentFeiler.com

"Kent Feiler" wrote in message
...
Anyway, I'm glad to get that out of the way, now I can go back to
learning how to pronounce "savignon."

You need to work on the spelling too.
It's "Sauvignon". :^)

Tom S

Kent Feiler wrote in
:

I just found out that I've been mispronouncing the name of my
glassware. Moreover, there are only two syllables in the name and
I've been mispronouncing both of them! Riedel must be a German name on
the basis of the old German pronunciation rule, "When two vowels go
a-walkin', the second one does the talkin'", but I understand that
the second syllable is pronounced as a "dle" sound rather than a
"dell", also a surprise to English speakers. So the end result is that
Riedel rhymes with needle. Anyone disagree?

I looked for a web page that listed the correct pronounciation. I
didn't find one, but did come across an interesting page on the Riedel
family history. Here's the URL:

http://www.riedelcrystal.com/page21.htm#CJR

I was recently "corrected" at a wine shop when I asked for some Ree-dle
glassware the salesman said "Oh you mean Rye-dell." He was convinced he was
right so I didn't go into the reasons why he was wrong.

Fred.

"Tom S" skrev i meddelandet
om...

"Kent Feiler" wrote in message
...
Anyway, I'm glad to get that out of the way, now I can go back to
learning how to pronounce "savignon."

You need to work on the spelling too.
It's "Sauvignon". :^)


... unless he means Savignin or Savigny, of course ...

Cheers

Nils Gustaf

--
Respond to nils dot lindgren at drchips dot se

Salut/Hi Fred,

le/on Tue, 30 Mar 2004 18:42:36 GMT, tu disais/you said:-

http://www.riedelcrystal.com/page21.htm#CJR

I was recently "corrected" at a wine shop when I asked for some Ree-dle
glassware the salesman said "Oh you mean Rye-dell." He was convinced he was
right so I didn't go into the reasons why he was wrong.

Ask him how he pronounces the Riesling grape. If he says Ryesling, you may
wonder just how reliable he could be in his advice!

--
All the Best
Ian Hoare
http://www.souvigne.com
mailbox full to avoid spam. try me at website

On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 13:28:41 GMT, "Tom S"
wrote:


"Kent Feiler" wrote in message
.. .
Anyway, I'm glad to get that out of the way, now I can go back to
learning how to pronounce "savignon."

You need to work on the spelling too.
It's "Sauvignon". :^)

Tom S
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~

Actually, I tossed that in on purpose. Have you seen how many places
on the Internet drop the 'u'? Google will give you a couple of
screens of them. Some of the sites use both spellings, sometimes
within a line or two of each other.


Regards,

Kent Feiler
www.KentFeiler.com

Ian Hoare wrote:

Salut/Hi Fred,

le/on Tue, 30 Mar 2004 18:42:36 GMT, tu disais/you said:-


http://www.riedelcrystal.com/page21.htm#CJR

I was recently "corrected" at a wine shop when I asked for some Ree-dle
glassware the salesman said "Oh you mean Rye-dell." He was convinced he was
right so I didn't go into the reasons why he was wrong.


Ask him how he pronounces the Riesling grape. If he says Ryesling, you may
wonder just how reliable he could be in his advice!


Or ask him how he pronounces "diesel".

In article , says...

I just found out that I've been mispronouncing the name of my
glassware. Moreover, there are only two syllables in the name and
I've been mispronouncing both of them! Riedel must be a German name on
the basis of the old German pronunciation rule, "When two vowels go
a-walkin', the second one does the talkin'", but I understand that
the second syllable is pronounced as a "dle" sound rather than a
"dell", also a surprise to English speakers. So the end result is that
Riedel rhymes with needle. Anyone disagree?

I looked for a web page that listed the correct pronounciation. I
didn't find one, but did come across an interesting page on the Riedel
family history. Here's the URL:

http://www.riedelcrystal.com/page21.htm#CJR

Anyway, I'm glad to get that out of the way, now I can go back to
learning how to pronounce "savignon."


Regards,

Kent Feiler
www.KentFeiler.com

WS did a piece on Riedel about 2 years ago and the Riedel-needle pronunciation
was specifically stated in the article. Maybe worth a look back, if you want
to flaunt it to your mates. Kinda' like the Moet (this damned keyboard won't
let me put the two ..'s over the o). Since the founder was Dutch, the French
pronunciation rules go out the window, and it sounds a bit like Mo-et, with
the e very soft.

Hunt

In article wcjac.74276$cx5.56672@fed1read04, says...

Kent Feiler wrote in
:

I just found out that I've been mispronouncing the name of my
glassware. Moreover, there are only two syllables in the name and
I've been mispronouncing both of them! Riedel must be a German name on
the basis of the old German pronunciation rule, "When two vowels go
a-walkin', the second one does the talkin'", but I understand that
the second syllable is pronounced as a "dle" sound rather than a
"dell", also a surprise to English speakers. So the end result is that
Riedel rhymes with needle. Anyone disagree?

I looked for a web page that listed the correct pronounciation. I
didn't find one, but did come across an interesting page on the Riedel
family history. Here's the URL:

http://www.riedelcrystal.com/page21.htm#CJR

I was recently "corrected" at a wine shop when I asked for some Ree-dle
glassware the salesman said "Oh you mean Rye-dell." He was convinced he was
right so I didn't go into the reasons why he was wrong.

Fred.

Did you buy them from this salesman?
Hunt

(Hunt) wrote in message ...
WS did a piece on Riedel about 2 years ago and the Riedel-needle pronunciation
was specifically stated in the article. Maybe worth a look back, if you want
to flaunt it to your mates. Kinda' like the Moet (this damned keyboard won't
let me put the two ..'s over the o). Since the founder was Dutch, the French
pronunciation rules go out the window, and it sounds a bit like Mo-et, with
the e very soft.

Hunt

Hunt - it's not that hard to do ö - try ALT-148!

- Mark W.

On 26 Jun 2004 14:44:51 -0700, (Mark Willstatter)
wrote:

(Hunt) wrote in message ...
WS did a piece on Riedel about 2 years ago and the Riedel-needle pronunciation
was specifically stated in the article. Maybe worth a look back, if you want
to flaunt it to your mates. Kinda' like the Moet (this damned keyboard won't
let me put the two ..'s over the o). Since the founder was Dutch, the French
pronunciation rules go out the window, and it sounds a bit like Mo-et, with
the e very soft.

Hunt

Hunt - it's not that hard to do ö - try ALT-148!

Though why you would want an ö to spell Moët is another question :-)

Following a recommendation read in this NG I now use allchars to help
me with this pedantry. http://allchars.zwolnet.com/

--
Steve Slatcher
http://pobox.com/~steve.slatcher

In article , mwillsta@yahoo.
com says...

(Hunt) wrote in message
....
WS did a piece on Riedel about 2 years ago and the Riedel-needle
pronunciation

was specifically stated in the article. Maybe worth a look back, if you
want
to flaunt it to your mates. Kinda' like the Moet (this damned keyboard
won't
let me put the two ..'s over the o). Since the founder was Dutch, the
French
pronunciation rules go out the window, and it sounds a bit like Mo-et, with
the e very soft.

Hunt

Hunt - it's not that hard to do ö - try ALT-148!

- Mark W.

Thank you, but unfortunately this keyboard doesn't have a numerical keypad,
which is required, as the numeric keys on the top of the KWERTY will not call
up extended characters. I think I'll soon add a USB numeric, just so I can
access them. Thanks anyway.

Hunt