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Old 27-12-2003, 05:01 AM
Robert Tobin
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A few I've received over the course of a few years. I'd like the group's
opinion on these as whether to hold, drink now, or dump down the drain...

The labels are as follows:

1. Grand Cru Classe
Chateau Haut-Bages Liberal
Pauillac
1986
S.F. Haut-Bages Liberal, proprietaire A Pauilac (giroude)
Mis En Bouteilles Au Chateau

This bottle was stored in a cool basement in a suburb of NY

2. Grand Cru Classe
Chateau Lafon-Rochet
Saint - Estephe
1981
Ste Civile du Chateau Lafon-Rochet
Appellation Saint-Estephe Controlee

This was kept in a warm NY apartment.

3 and 4. Chateau du Cadillacs.
One red, and one white.
There is no other appellation mentioned on these bottles, so I'm assuming
they're of a lower quality. Red is 1979, white is 1981.

Any thoughts, comments, critiques?

Thanks,
RT


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Old 27-12-2003, 07:17 AM
Tom S
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"Robert Tobin" wrote in message
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A few I've received over the course of a few years. I'd like the group's
opinion on these as whether to hold, drink now, or dump down the drain...

The labels are as follows:

1. Grand Cru Classe
Chateau Haut-Bages Liberal
Pauillac
1986
S.F. Haut-Bages Liberal, proprietaire A Pauilac (giroude)
Mis En Bouteilles Au Chateau

This bottle was stored in a cool basement in a suburb of NY


That bottle is probably good.

2. Grand Cru Classe
Chateau Lafon-Rochet
Saint - Estephe
1981
Ste Civile du Chateau Lafon-Rochet
Appellation Saint-Estephe Controlee

This was kept in a warm NY apartment.


This one _might_ still be OK. It sort of depends on just how warm a "warm
NY apartment" has been over the years. If you plan on serving this wine
with dinner, be sure to have a backup bottle or two.

3 and 4. Chateau du Cadillacs.
One red, and one white.
There is no other appellation mentioned on these bottles, so I'm assuming
they're of a lower quality. Red is 1979, white is 1981.

Any thoughts, comments, critiques?


Those last two are probably well past their prime - if, indeed, they ever
_had_ a prime. The red would be more likely to still be palatable. Might
make a decent marinade.

Tom S


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Old 27-12-2003, 10:14 AM
Michael Pronay
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"Tom S" wrote:

Chateau Haut-Bages Liberal
Pauillac
1986


That bottle is probably good.


It's even likely to be excellent. (I happen to have a double
magnum of this wine in my cellar.)

FWIW, Parker rates it 90/100, last tasted 1990, and gives a
maturity window "Now to 2015".

M.
 




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