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Portugieser Blauer - California Wine - who knows one?



 
 
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Old 24-12-2003, 04:50 AM
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I know that Portugieser Blauer is a grape variety that is cultivated in
CA, but haven't been able to find a wine that's made from it (100%).
Anyone run across one or know for sure?

Thanks!

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Old 24-12-2003, 09:57 AM
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Mike wrote:

I know that Portugieser Blauer is a grape variety that is
cultivated in CA, but haven't been able to find a wine that's
made from it (100%). Anyone run across one or know for sure?


Blauer Portugieser ("blue portuguese") is Austria's second most
prolific red grape (after Zweigelt), but has little aspirations to
top quality.

I've never heard this grape being grown anywhere except Eastern
Europe - in Hungary it's called oporto or kék oporto, btw.

M.
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Old 24-12-2003, 04:11 PM
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"Michael Pronay" skrev i en meddelelse
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Mike wrote:

I know that Portugieser Blauer is a grape variety that is
cultivated in CA, but haven't been able to find a wine that's
made from it (100%). Anyone run across one or know for sure?


Blauer Portugieser ("blue portuguese") is Austria's second most
prolific red grape (after Zweigelt), but has little aspirations to
top quality.

I've never heard this grape being grown anywhere except Eastern
Europe - in Hungary it's called oporto or kék oporto, btw.

M


As far as I know this grape is mainly found i Germany, where it produces
light fruity red wines which I find worth drinking at lunch at a hot summers
day. The main growing area in Germany is the Ahr-region, I think. I think
that the origin of this grape has never been established - the name
indicates Porugal, but that may not be thrue...

I can't comment on its availlability in US - *S*
H.


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Old 24-12-2003, 07:15 PM
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Default Portugieser Blauer - California Wine - who knows one?

Knagsted wrote:

I think
that the origin of this grape has never been established - the name
indicates Porugal, but that may not be thrue...


Probably came from Austria at some point.


I can't comment on its availlability in US - *S*



It's listed in the crush report for CA. I would find it dubious that
they import the grapes from Europe. It's not listed explicitly in the
report for what varietals are grown, but it's a very small percentage in
2001 anyways, so probably falls in the 'other red' category.

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Old 25-12-2003, 12:12 PM
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"Knagsted" wrote:

Blauer Portugieser ("blue portuguese") is Austria's second most
prolific red grape (after Zweigelt), but has little aspirations
to top quality.


As far as I know this grape is mainly found i Germany ...


In the mid 1980s, Austria and Germany both had slightly under
3100ha of Portugieser (which meant something around 6% of the
total vineyard area for Austria, 3% for Germany). Today Germany
has around 4500ha, while the surface in Austria has dropped to
2360ha, given the fact that it's considered minor in quality
compared to zweigelt, blaufränkisch or st. laurent (who all are in
expansion, zweigelt heavily).

M.
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Old 27-12-2003, 08:46 AM
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"Michael Pronay" skrev i en meddelelse
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"Knagsted" wrote:

Today Germany
has around 4500ha, while the surface in Austria has dropped to
2360ha, given the fact that it's considered minor in quality
compared to zweigelt, blaufränkisch or st. laurent (who all are in
expansion, zweigelt heavily).

M


I can't recall having seen Blauer Portugieser at all during my wine-trips to
Austria, but it may be due to the fact that in Austria I've concentrated on
my favorite Blaufränkisch-grape. In Germany it's called Lemberger and is
quite rare. The few Lembergers I've tasted were clearly inferior to the
better Blaufränkisch, found in Austria. I recently learned that 1/3 of the
German wine-production actually are reds now, and new red-producing grapes
are becomming more and more popular in Germany, producing charming, fruity
and from thin redwines (Dornfelder, Regent), but that's another story.
German and Austrian quality-reds are little known outside the 2 contries and
they do deserve more attention.
HK


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Old 27-12-2003, 10:17 AM
Michael Pronay
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"Knagsted" wrote:

I can't recall having seen Blauer Portugieser at all during my
wine-trips to Austria, but it may be due to the fact that in
Austria I've concentrated on my favorite Blaufränkisch-grape.


There is not one single premium red wine in Austria labelled or
made of Blauer Portugieser. Most standard (not premium) red in the
Baden and Vöslau area south of Vienna is from Blauer Portugieser,
but the grape variety seldom appears on the label. Most is
quaffing stuff, served in the Heurigen places of the region.

M.
 




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