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Old 21-12-2003, 10:56 AM
Nils Gustaf Lindgren
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Hello;
Yesterday, we had an AAB (appel a boire) centered on Spanish wines and a
tapa style supper. Apart from two cavas, both rather bland, all the guests
had decided on reds - two RIojas, one Ribera del Duero, and one from
Priorat.
The last one stood out from the others, to my mind more like a SOuthern
French than your "generic Spanish". And here comes the "ampelographic"
question. According to the label, the varietals used were Garnatxa tinta,
Cab Sauv, and Carinyena. Would the Garnatxa be the same as Grenache? And the
Carinyena Carignan?

TIA, and cheers

Nils Gustaf

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Old 21-12-2003, 11:14 AM
Mike Tommasi
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On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 10:56:39 GMT, "Nils Gustaf Lindgren"
wrote:

Hello;
Yesterday, we had an AAB (appel a boire) centered on Spanish wines and a
tapa style supper. Apart from two cavas, both rather bland, all the guests
had decided on reds - two RIojas, one Ribera del Duero, and one from
Priorat.
The last one stood out from the others, to my mind more like a SOuthern
French than your "generic Spanish". And here comes the "ampelographic"
question. According to the label, the varietals used were Garnatxa tinta,
Cab Sauv, and Carinyena. Would the Garnatxa be the same as Grenache?


Yes, and it is tinta just as in french it is called Grenache noir, to
distinguish it from the "gris" and the wonderful aromatic white
grenache.

And the
Carinyena Carignan?


Yessir

Can you identify the wine now please ;-)

Cheers to you Nils, and of course to Xina, a Merry Nordic Xmas.

Mike
from rainy Provence
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Old 21-12-2003, 11:16 AM
Michael Pronay
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"Nils Gustaf Lindgren" wrote:

The last one stood out from the others, to my mind more like a
SOuthern French than your "generic Spanish".


No wonder - "Garnatxa" is Catalan which points to Spain's northeast
corner.

Would the Garnatxa be the same as Grenache? And the
Carinyena Carignan?


Yes and yes.

M.
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Old 21-12-2003, 12:55 PM
Nils Gustaf Lindgren
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"Mike Tommasi" skrev i meddelandet
...
On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 10:56:39 GMT, "Nils Gustaf Lindgren"
wrote:

....

Yes, and it is tinta just as in french it is called Grenache noir, to
distinguish it from the "gris" and the wonderful aromatic white
grenache.


We tasted a few whites made from grenache blanc at that Languedoc-Roousillon
tasting a reported on in August. We will have Languedoc as a theme on our
Xmas luncheon; after the first course (which is beer and snaps oriented), we
do a Bouboulenque (sp?) called Brise Marine, then two different reds for the
ham and the cheese, and finish with a banyuls with the riz a lŽamande, with
cherry preserve.


And the
Carinyena Carignan?


Yessir

Can you identify the wine now please ;-)


Gladly, esteemed sir, forasmuch as I can. It hight "Scipion Priorat" 1999,
according to the label "elaborado y embotellado por De Muller SA".
Being now informed that my suspicions were correct, I would say that the
nose was dominated by grenache, but with a slight green-ness I ascribe to
the cabriolet sauvignon (sorry about that), being of the opinion that the
grapes, on harvest, were not super-ripe. HAving previously put my foot in it
by discussing the lack of loong-evity of a Dom Vieux Telegraphe, I think
IŽll keep my big mouth shut concerning this wineŽs hopes for a brighter
future - we did conclude that in all likelyhood it was going to evolve. I
have no experience of the Priorats at all - this is the second I taste.


Cheers to you Nils, and of course to Xina, a Merry Nordic Xmas.


ANd the same to you and Cathy. Not a very Nordic Xmas so far - 7-8 C and
gray skies, possibly weŽre in for more rain.

Nils GUstaf
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Old 21-12-2003, 02:18 PM
Michael Pronay
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"Nils Gustaf Lindgren" wrote:

Bouboulenque (sp?)


Bourboulenc

M.
 




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