I am looking for a reputable shop in Venice from which to purchase a case
of wine to provide for some clients. Can anyone here steer me in the right
direction?

Thanks in advance

J Coulter

In article . 77,
jcoulter wrote:

I am looking for a reputable shop in Venice from which to purchase a case
of wine to provide for some clients. Can anyone here steer me in the right
direction?

Thanks in advance


Venice, Florida?

Venice, Italy?

Venice, California?

Other?


Dimitri

(D. Gerasimatos) wrote in
:

In article . 77,
jcoulter wrote:

I am looking for a reputable shop in Venice from which to purchase a
case of wine to provide for some clients. Can anyone here steer me in
the right direction?

Thanks in advance


Venice, Florida?

Venice, Italy?

Venice, California?

Other?


Dimitri



Sorry, Venezia, Italia

On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 00:38:38 GMT, jcoulter
wrote:

(D. Gerasimatos) wrote in
:

In article . 77,
jcoulter wrote:

I am looking for a reputable shop in Venice from which to purchase a
case of wine to provide for some clients. Can anyone here steer me in
the right direction?

Thanks in advance


Venice, Florida?

Venice, Italy?

Venice, California?

Other?


Dimitri



Sorry, Venezia, Italia

Mmm, granted I am not objective, Venezia being my city, but it seems
to me that if someone does not specify, Venice is in Italy, just as
Berlin is in Germany and London in England... ;-)))

The only place to buy wine in Venice, if you ask me, is Vino e...
Vini, at Castello 3299, you can call them at 0415210184, they are not
far from San MArco, on the Fondamenta dei Furlani, near the Scuola di
San Giorgio degli Schiavoni (worth seeing BTW). In the evening they
organize tastings. The guy that runs it is very good.

Mike

In article ,
Mike Tommasi wrote:

Mmm, granted I am not objective, Venezia being my city, but it seems
to me that if someone does not specify, Venice is in Italy, just as
Berlin is in Germany and London in England... ;-)))


No, you aren't objective. I typed "Venice" into Google. Of the first
10 hits, 6 referenced the city in Italy, 2 referenced the city in
Florida, and 2 referenced the city in California.


Typing in "Venice wine" gave me 8 in Italy and 2 in Florida. Both Venice,
FL and Venice, CA are destinations unlike, say, Paris, TX. Being in Italy
perhaps you do not realize that.


Dimitri

On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:12:50 +0000 (UTC),
(D. Gerasimatos) wrote:

In article ,
Mike Tommasi wrote:

Mmm, granted I am not objective, Venezia being my city, but it seems
to me that if someone does not specify, Venice is in Italy, just as
Berlin is in Germany and London in England... ;-)))


No, you aren't objective. I typed "Venice" into Google. Of the first
10 hits, 6 referenced the city in Italy, 2 referenced the city in
Florida, and 2 referenced the city in California.

And what happened to Illinois? Seems like Google missed a few...


Typing in "Venice wine" gave me 8 in Italy and 2 in Florida. Both Venice,
FL and Venice, CA are destinations unlike, say, Paris, TX. Being in Italy
perhaps you do not realize that.

Hi Dimitri

JUST KIDDING
I know it is not nice to call little places "little" or fat people
"fat", I apologize for the typically european arrogance of my reply,
apologies to the the mayors of Venice FL and CA, and Illinois too, I
did not intend to start some kind of spanish inquisition, any
belittling of the importance of their respective puny villages (sorry,
cities) in history and world affairs was absolutely unintentional. My
assuming that Venice meant Venice Italy is inexcusable, in the future
I shall look up Google and check if there can be any confusion between
the first place that comes to my small enfeebled mind and some
godforsaken ******** (sorry, there I go again, I meant remote quaint
community) located in, gosh, another continent for Pete's sake!

But, if I may abuse of your patience for a few seconds more, please
let me ask you a question or two.

When you read something about the Roman Empire, do you need to be told
Rome-Italy just in case there was any doubt that it might have been
Rome, NY that invaded Gaul, or that Rome, GA had developed a brave
squad of Rubicon-crossers?

When you read about the Queen in London, do you need to know that it
is London, England or might you doubt that Buckingham palace could
have moved to Ontario or Kentucky or Ohio?

When you read about Paris being a fashion center, do you need to have
it specified as Paris France, or is any one of the 6 US cities so
named seeing a large influx of strange clothes and anoretic women?

And just what is wrong with Paris TX, why is it not a destination but
Venice FL is?
/JUST KIDDING

I guess Google hits are what defines objectivity today...

;-)))))

Mike

In article ,
Mike Tommasi wrote:

[snip!]

I guess Google hits are what defines objectivity today...

;-)))))


No, just a general knowledge of geography and awareness of the world
around you. Isn't that what Americans are always accused of lacking?
Unlike your other examples (e.g. Rome) there are other cities named Venice
that are indeed travel destinations. While I can recommend a wine shop
in Venice, CA I am not so knowledgeable about wine shops in Venice, FL
(or Venice, Italy). Hence, I asked for a clarification.


Next someone is going to ask about wine shops in Valencia or in Orange
County.


Dimitri

Salut/Hi D. Gerasimatos,

le/on Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:12:50 +0000 (UTC), tu disais/you said:-

In article ,
Mike Tommasi wrote:

Mmm, granted I am not objective, Venezia being my city, but it seems
to me that if someone does not specify, Venice is in Italy, just as
Berlin is in Germany and London in England... ;-)))


No, you aren't objective. I typed "Venice" into Google. Of the first
10 hits, 6 referenced the city in Italy, 2 referenced the city in
Florida, and 2 referenced the city in California.

That proves Mike's point, it seems to me. And even for an American,
comparing Venice FL with the city of the Doges and scene of Monteverdi's
greatest hour is going a touch far.

FL and Venice, CA are destinations unlike, say, Paris, TX. Being in Italy
perhaps you do not realize that.

He isn't, his origins are there, but he's lived in Canada, and currently
lives in Southern France. A better qualification for a balanced world view
than many, it seems to me.

--
All the Best
Ian Hoare

Sometimes oi just sits and thinks
Sometimes oi just sits.

Mike Tommasi wrote in
:

On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 00:38:38 GMT, jcoulter
wrote:

(D. Gerasimatos) wrote in
:

In article . 77,
jcoulter wrote:

I am looking for a reputable shop in Venice from which to purchase a
case of wine to provide for some clients. Can anyone here steer me
in
the right direction?

Thanks in advance


Venice, Florida?

Venice, Italy?

Venice, California?

Other?


Dimitri



Sorry, Venezia, Italia

Mmm, granted I am not objective, Venezia being my city, but it seems
to me that if someone does not specify, Venice is in Italy, just as
Berlin is in Germany and London in England... ;-)))

The only place to buy wine in Venice, if you ask me, is Vino e...
Vini, at Castello 3299, you can call them at 0415210184, they are not
far from San MArco, on the Fondamenta dei Furlani, near the Scuola di
San Giorgio degli Schiavoni (worth seeing BTW). In the evening they
organize tastings. The guy that runs it is very good.

Mike


Thank you Mike. I was hoping to avoid the major international incident
that I seemingly have caused, but things happen.

In article . 17, jcoulter
writes:

hank you Mike. I was hoping to avoid the major international incident
that I seemingly have caused, but things happen.

Hope Mike's merchant is helpful.

While it does behoove us all to remember this is an international group, I
don't think anyone seriously was confused about which Venice was being referred
to. Or maybe they were, in which case maybe producers should start putting on
"The Merchant of Venice (the one in Italy"), and whoever has the rights to
Thomas Mann's estate should have the book covers read "Death in Venice, Italy"

BTW, is Venice CA really a destination? Even a friend whose son lived in Venice
CA would say she was going to LA to visit him.

In any case, I'd just like to state for the record that if I forget to add NY,
when I say Manhattan that's the one I'm referring to, not the one in Kansas.

Dale

Dale Williams
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What about Venice Florida. It is a destination......not for wine however.


"Dale Williams" wrote in message
...
In article . 17, jcoulter
writes:

hank you Mike. I was hoping to avoid the major international incident
that I seemingly have caused, but things happen.

Hope Mike's merchant is helpful.

While it does behoove us all to remember this is an international group, I
don't think anyone seriously was confused about which Venice was being
referred
to. Or maybe they were, in which case maybe producers should start putting
on
"The Merchant of Venice (the one in Italy"), and whoever has the rights to
Thomas Mann's estate should have the book covers read "Death in Venice,
Italy"

BTW, is Venice CA really a destination? Even a friend whose son lived in
Venice
CA would say she was going to LA to visit him.

In any case, I'd just like to state for the record that if I forget to add
NY,
when I say Manhattan that's the one I'm referring to, not the one in
Kansas.

Dale

Dale Williams
Drop "damnspam" to reply

"D. Gerasimatos" wrote in message
...

.......
Typing in "Venice wine" gave me 8 in Italy and 2 in Florida. Both Venice,
FL and Venice, CA are destinations unlike, say, Paris, TX. Being in Italy
perhaps you do not realize that.
.......


Not at all that simple. Google operates its search engines
with regard for the country of origin of the query, hence there
are multiple Googles: www.google.it, www.google.fr, etcetera.
If you request information on "Venice" from Google Italy
you will get different results from the same request in Google
France, and so forth. As you are in the US you connect to
Google USA. Being in the US perhaps you do not realize that.

pavane

Burton Anderson in the 2002 edition of the Wines of Italy recommends Al
Volto in Italy's
Venice. I last visited there in 1985 and don't recall much, except it was
dingy...........I much prefer the shops of Verona, Italy not New Jersey.
--
Joe "Beppe" Rosenberg
"Ian Hoare" wrote in message
...
Salut/Hi D. Gerasimatos,

le/on Fri, 3 Oct 2003 08:12:50 +0000 (UTC), tu disais/you said:-

In article ,
Mike Tommasi wrote:

Mmm, granted I am not objective, Venezia being my city, but it seems
to me that if someone does not specify, Venice is in Italy, just as
Berlin is in Germany and London in England... ;-)))


No, you aren't objective. I typed "Venice" into Google. Of the first
10 hits, 6 referenced the city in Italy, 2 referenced the city in
Florida, and 2 referenced the city in California.

That proves Mike's point, it seems to me. And even for an American,
comparing Venice FL with the city of the Doges and scene of Monteverdi's
greatest hour is going a touch far.

FL and Venice, CA are destinations unlike, say, Paris, TX. Being in Italy
perhaps you do not realize that.

He isn't, his origins are there, but he's lived in Canada, and currently
lives in Southern France. A better qualification for a balanced world view
than many, it seems to me.

--
All the Best
Ian Hoare

Sometimes oi just sits and thinks
Sometimes oi just sits.

In article ,
pavane wrote:

Not at all that simple. Google operates its search engines
with regard for the country of origin of the query, hence there
are multiple Googles: www.google.it, www.google.fr, etcetera.
If you request information on "Venice" from Google Italy
you will get different results from the same request in Google
France, and so forth. As you are in the US you connect to
Google USA. Being in the US perhaps you do not realize that.


However, Usenet is international. My point in using Google was only to
show that in some countries/regions at least, it is not at all clear that
Venice is necessarily the city in Italy. It is not unreasonable at all to
ask for clarification.


Dimitri

In article ,
Dale Williams wrote:

While it does behoove us all to remember this is an international group, I
don't think anyone seriously was confused about which Venice was being referred
to.

Or maybe they were, in which case maybe producers should start putting on
"The Merchant of Venice (the one in Italy"), and whoever has the rights to
Thomas Mann's estate should have the book covers read "Death in Venice, Italy"

BTW, is Venice CA really a destination? Even a friend whose son lived in Venice
CA would say she was going to LA to visit him.

In any case, I'd just like to state for the record that if I forget to add NY,
when I say Manhattan that's the one I'm referring to, not the one in Kansas.


I'd like to say that when I refer to Portland I mean OREGON and not MAINE.
However, I am sure you more often mean Maine. No?


From a post of yours:

"I had almost purchased the 1998 of this in Portland (where every store
seemed to carry)..."


Do you see why this is petty?


Dimitri