(D. Gerasimatos) wrote:

However, Usenet is international. My point in using Google was
only to show that in some countries/regions at least, it is not
at all clear that Venice is necessarily the city in Italy. It is
not unreasonable at all to ask for clarification.

It was, however, quite superfluous in this specific case, since
both the original poster and those who actually provided an answer
to the OP's question didn't need any clarification: All three were
well aware about Venice, without any need of extra clarification.

M.

In article , (D.
Gerasimatos) writes:

I'd like to say that when I refer to Portland I mean OREGON and not MAINE.
However, I am sure you more often mean Maine. No?

From a post of yours:

"I had almost purchased the 1998 of this in Portland (where every store
seemed to carry)..."

Sorry about that, I guess I assumed since I made that post the day after a
thread entitled "TN: Wines in Maine" folks would guess. It looks like the rest
of the times I've mentioned Portland ME , I apologize for this error!

Dale

Dale Williams
Drop "damnspam" to reply

On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 08:48:28 +0200, Mike Tommasi
wrote:


The only place to buy wine in Venice, if you ask me, is Vino e...
Vini, at Castello 3299, you can call them at 0415210184, they are not
far from San MArco, on the Fondamenta dei Furlani, near the Scuola di
San Giorgio degli Schiavoni (worth seeing BTW). In the evening they
organize tastings. The guy that runs it is very good.

Mike

I also buy at this enoteca. The selection is excellent, but I think
the prices in Bologna, which is the other place I frequently visit,
are much better.

In article ,
Michael Pronay wrote:

It was, however, quite superfluous in this specific case, since
both the original poster and those who actually provided an answer
to the OP's question didn't need any clarification: All three were
well aware about Venice, without any need of extra clarification.


How nice of you to speak for the entire audience of this newsgroup and
decide whether they needed clarification or not.


Dimitri

In article ,
Dale Williams wrote:

Sorry about that, I guess I assumed since I made that post the day after a
thread entitled "TN: Wines in Maine" folks would guess. It looks like the rest
of the times I've mentioned Portland ME , I apologize for this error!


The fact that you choose to be clear in your differentiation of Portland,
ME from Portland, OR is appreciated. You apparently wish to avoid
confusion. So why is it such an issue to ask someone else to be as clear?


Was it really necessary for a dozen people to show indignation that I
would ask? What would the peanut gallery have said if this guy really
*had* meant Venice, FL?


Which country do you think everythingvenice.com is inviting you to tour?
Apparently everyone on this group would guess Italy. Would that be
correct?


I am dismayed at the arrogance displayed here, but I guess that is to be
expected in a wine newsgroup.


Here is an interesting question:

Where is the largest city named Newcastle in the world?

a. USA
b. South Africa
c. Australia
d. England


Dimitri

On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 13:56:51 -0400, gerald wrote:

On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 08:48:28 +0200, Mike Tommasi
wrote:


The only place to buy wine in Venice, if you ask me, is Vino e...
Vini, at Castello 3299, you can call them at 0415210184, they are not
far from San MArco, on the Fondamenta dei Furlani, near the Scuola di
San Giorgio degli Schiavoni (worth seeing BTW). In the evening they
organize tastings. The guy that runs it is very good.

Mike

I also buy at this enoteca. The selection is excellent, but I think
the prices in Bologna, which is the other place I frequently visit,
are much better.

Yes, everything is more expensive in Venice-ITALIA...

BTW, to which Bologna are you referring to, the city in Emilia Romagna
that is home to the world's oldest university and the world's best
tortellini, or Bologna, the capital of the Sandwich (Islands)?

And watch it, Bologna is not very far off from spam....

Mike
Provence, France (not Rhode Island)

On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 17:24:04 +0000 (UTC),
(D. Gerasimatos) wrote:



I'd like to say that when I refer to Portland I mean OREGON and not MAINE.
However, I am sure you more often mean Maine. No?

Do you mean Maine the US state or Maine the old french province where
a famous 24 hour car race takes place?

Try to be more precise in the future please.

Mike

Thanks for giving an answer to the original question. While I did not ask
the original question it was of interest to me because I will be there next
week.


"gerald" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 08:48:28 +0200, Mike Tommasi
wrote:


The only place to buy wine in Venice, if you ask me, is Vino e...
Vini, at Castello 3299, you can call them at 0415210184, they are not
far from San MArco, on the Fondamenta dei Furlani, near the Scuola di
San Giorgio degli Schiavoni (worth seeing BTW). In the evening they
organize tastings. The guy that runs it is very good.

Mike

I also buy at this enoteca. The selection is excellent, but I think
the prices in Bologna, which is the other place I frequently visit,
are much better.

In article ,
Steve Naïve wrote:
(D. Gerasimatos) wrote in
:

Here is an interesting question:
Where is the largest city named Newcastle in the world?

a. USA
b. South Africa
c. Australia
d. England

b. South Africa - do I win five pounds (British pounds)


No, because that is incorrect. Australia is the correct answer.


Dimitri

In article ,
Mike Tommasi wrote:
On Fri, 3 Oct 2003 17:24:04 +0000 (UTC),
(D. Gerasimatos) wrote:

I'd like to say that when I refer to Portland I mean OREGON and not MAINE.
However, I am sure you more often mean Maine. No?

Do you mean Maine the US state or Maine the old french province where
a famous 24 hour car race takes place?

Try to be more precise in the future please.


The one that has a Portland in it.


Dimitri

Salut/Hi D. Gerasimatos,

I'm sorry to see you take criticism so badly.

le/on Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:57:49 +0000 (UTC), tu disais/you said:-

Was it really necessary for a dozen people to show indignation that I
would ask? What would the peanut gallery have said if this guy really
*had* meant Venice, FL?


Which country do you think everythingvenice.com is inviting you to tour?

Who cares. Travel companies and the Internet don't make up culture.

I am dismayed at the arrogance displayed here, but I guess that is to be
expected in a wine newsgroup.

No arrogance to say that "Venice" unqualified implies Italy, just as
"Washington" unqualified implies the capital of the USA and not a town in
the UK _even_ if the UK one is by far older.

Here is an interesting question:

Where is the largest city named Newcastle in the world?

Size isn't everything (as my Magnum murmurs to your Methusalem).

d. England

Which one?

Sorry, but there's world of difference between Venice and Newcastle, as
anyone who likes music, art, sculpture, literature or knows any history can
tell you.
--
All the Best
Ian Hoare

Sometimes oi just sits and thinks
Sometimes oi just sits.

Ian,

The original posting was as follows:

"I am looking for a reputable shop in Venice from which to purchase a case
of wine to provide for some clients. Can anyone here steer me in the right
direction?"

The original poster did not indicate at that time that he was visiting
Italy...therefore it was totally appropriate to request clarification.

With regards to your statement Ian:

No arrogance to say that "Venice" unqualified implies Italy, just as
"Washington" unqualified implies the capital of the USA and not a town in
the UK _even_ if the UK one is by far older.

That is not really accurate. If someone said on Vacation in Italy I went
to Venice then I would understand. When a person in California says I was
in Venice last week...I would not assume Italy. Of if a person in Tampa
Florida said I spent 3 days in Venice on business...I would assume Florida
as Venice is south about 60 to 90 Miles.

Since you live in Europe you might have made assumptions that not all would
make depending upon their locations.

The sheer number of assaulting posts on this subject is shameful.

I think many owe an apology to D. Gerasimatos. His posts are not
argumentative but makes a valid point.


"Ian Hoare" wrote in message
...
Salut/Hi D. Gerasimatos,

I'm sorry to see you take criticism so badly.

le/on Fri, 3 Oct 2003 18:57:49 +0000 (UTC), tu disais/you said:-

Was it really necessary for a dozen people to show indignation that I
would ask? What would the peanut gallery have said if this guy really
*had* meant Venice, FL?


Which country do you think everythingvenice.com is inviting you to tour?

Who cares. Travel companies and the Internet don't make up culture.

I am dismayed at the arrogance displayed here, but I guess that is to be
expected in a wine newsgroup.

No arrogance to say that "Venice" unqualified implies Italy, just as
"Washington" unqualified implies the capital of the USA and not a town in
the UK _even_ if the UK one is by far older.

Here is an interesting question:

Where is the largest city named Newcastle in the world?

Size isn't everything (as my Magnum murmurs to your Methusalem).

d. England

Which one?

Sorry, but there's world of difference between Venice and Newcastle, as
anyone who likes music, art, sculpture, literature or knows any history
can
tell you.
--
All the Best
Ian Hoare

Sometimes oi just sits and thinks
Sometimes oi just sits.

"dick" wrote:

No arrogance to say that "Venice" unqualified implies Italy,
just as "Washington" unqualified implies the capital of the USA
and not a town in the UK _even_ if the UK one is by far older.

That is not really accurate.

That *is* accurate.

If someone said on Vacation in Italy I went to Venice then I
would understand. When a person in California says I was in
Venice last week...I would not assume Italy. Of if a person in
Tampa Florida said I spent 3 days in Venice on business...I
would assume Florida as Venice is south about 60 to 90 Miles.

All true. But if someone does not specify anything at all, I am
100 percent with Ian assuming it's Venezia.

M.

If they had said Venezia vs. Venice...I would have agreed with you. But
Venice is also here in the USA In several states.

I have been to Fla and Ca. Fla is very nice. Sorry.

If you as a Austrian said you were going to Venice I would assume Italy. If
J. Coulter said he was going to Venice... I would assume USA unless
specified.

Come on now...why did this comment from a new poster have to become a
****ing contest?
"Michael Pronay" wrote in message
...
"dick" wrote:

No arrogance to say that "Venice" unqualified implies Italy,
just as "Washington" unqualified implies the capital of the USA
and not a town in the UK _even_ if the UK one is by far older.

That is not really accurate.

That *is* accurate.

If someone said on Vacation in Italy I went to Venice then I
would understand. When a person in California says I was in
Venice last week...I would not assume Italy. Of if a person in
Tampa Florida said I spent 3 days in Venice on business...I
would assume Florida as Venice is south about 60 to 90 Miles.

All true. But if someone does not specify anything at all, I am
100 percent with Ian assuming it's Venezia.

M.

"dick" wrote in message
hlink.net...

I think many owe an apology to D. Gerasimatos. His posts are not
argumentative but makes a valid point.


I do not see any reason for apology. Both his posts and
yours are contentious displays of obnoxious pedantry,
useful to no one save your own miscalibrated egos. Duh,
if its in America its gotta be the one you think of. Yeah!


pavane