A Food and drink forum. FoodBanter.com

Welcome to FoodBanter.com forums which provide access to the finest food and drink related newsgroups.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most newsgroup discussions and access our other FREE features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics to the food related newsgroups, communicate privately with other FoodBanter.com members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own photos and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact support.

Go Back   Home » FoodBanter.com forum » Drinking » Wine
Site Map Home Register Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

Wine (alt.food.wine) Devoted to the discussion of wine and wine-related topics. A place to read and comment about wines, wine and food matching, storage systems, wine paraphernalia, etc. In general, any topic related to wine is valid fodder for the group.

Where, besides Australia, is Syrah known as Shiraz?



 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 02-10-2003, 12:41 PM
Eric Reichenbach
Usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Where, besides Australia, is Syrah known as Shiraz?

To my knowledge, Shiraz is a term coined in Australia and only bottles
from there will say "Shiraz". Are there, in fact, other countries using
the term "Shiraz" on their bottles?

By the way, I had a bottle of Possum's Shiraz 2001 the other day. Well
worth the $14!!!

Thank you,

Eric

  #4 (permalink)  
Old 02-10-2003, 02:40 PM
cory
Usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Where, besides Australia, is Syrah known as Shiraz?

Eric Reichenbach wrote:

To my knowledge, Shiraz is a term coined in Australia and only bottles
from there will say "Shiraz". Are there, in fact, other countries using
the term "Shiraz" on their bottles?

By the way, I had a bottle of Possum's Shiraz 2001 the other day. Well
worth the $14!!!

Thank you,

Eric


It's my understanding that the Shiraz grape is named after Shiraz, Iran.

http://www.planitvancouver.com/Artic...11-Shiraz.html

  #5 (permalink)  
Old 02-10-2003, 04:26 PM
Chuck Reid
Usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Where, besides Australia, is Syrah known as Shiraz?


"Eric Reichenbach" wrote in message
...
To my knowledge, Shiraz is a term coined in Australia and only bottles
from there will say "Shiraz". Are there, in fact, other countries using
the term "Shiraz" on their bottles?

Thank you,

Eric


Yes Eric;

Canada; At least on Inniskillin's 2000 Brae Burn Estate.
--
Regards
Chuck
So much wine; So little time!

To reply, delete NOSPAM from return address


  #6 (permalink)  
Old 02-10-2003, 05:45 PM
Walter Moar
Usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Where, besides Australia, is Syrah known as Shiraz?

Eric Reichenbach wrote:
To my knowledge, Shiraz is a term coined in Australia and only bottles
from there will say "Shiraz". Are there, in fact, other countries using
the term "Shiraz" on their bottles?


A quick search of the BC provincial liquor stores comes up with: Canada
(many), South Africa (a few), Chile (a couple), New Zealand (1) and
Argentina (1).

-Walter

  #8 (permalink)  
Old 13-10-2003, 11:05 PM
grazzc
Usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Where, besides Australia, is Syrah known as Shiraz?

It might be safer to say, where in the world uses the term Syrah. The
variety is known more universally by its synonym of Shiraz, in South Africa,
New Zealand, Australia, USA, Canada, South America (aka Balsamina). In
france there are two distinct types known as Grosse Syrah with larger
berries, and the smaller berried, superioir Petite Syrah (no relation to the
Petite Syrah{sirah/etc,etc} grown in california{reckoned to be Durif}).
Syrah is also grown in Switzerland in the Valais, in Corsica, Spain and
Tuscany, but Im not sure by what name it goes, as I havent seen any. Check
out Jancis robinsons two books on grape varieties for more info - Vines
Grapes and Wines, and Guide to Grape Varieties(?).

grazza

"Eric Reichenbach" wrote in message
...
To my knowledge, Shiraz is a term coined in Australia and only bottles
from there will say "Shiraz". Are there, in fact, other countries using
the term "Shiraz" on their bottles?

By the way, I had a bottle of Possum's Shiraz 2001 the other day. Well
worth the $14!!!

Thank you,

Eric



  #9 (permalink)  
Old 17-10-2003, 04:12 AM
BFSON
Usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Where, besides Australia, is Syrah known as Shiraz?

The last DNA test results from UC Davis say that Petite Sirah (or Petite Syrah)
is related to Syrah!
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 17-10-2003, 02:58 PM
pavane
Usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Where, besides Australia, is Syrah known as Shiraz?


"BFSON" wrote in message
...
The last DNA test results from UC Davis say that Petite Sirah (or Petite

Syrah)
is related to Syrah!

....I believe that they were both grapes at one time...

pavane


  #11 (permalink)  
Old 17-10-2003, 04:16 PM
Kent Feiler
Usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Where, besides Australia, is Syrah known as Shiraz?

On 17 Oct 2003 03:12:38 GMT, (BFSON) wrote:

The last DNA test results from UC Davis say that Petite Sirah (or Petite Syrah)
is related to Syrah!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~

Hmm, no Petite Shiraz.


  #12 (permalink)  
Old 19-10-2003, 04:33 AM
RobertsonChai
Usenet poster
 
Posts: n/a
Default Where, besides Australia, is Syrah known as Shiraz?

Kent zzzzz opines,


Hmm, no Petite Shiraz.


No, but the old-timers in California grape-growing called it [phonetically]
"Pet It Seerah"

Up until the 1980s, when the old guys of Prohibition days started dying off,
that's what it was called.

---Bob
 




Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Australia to slaughter 350 imported U.S. Cows The Wolf General Cooking 4 04-01-2004 04:05 PM

fitness forum |
All times are GMT +1. The time now is 05:08 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC6
Copyright ©2004-2008 FoodBanter.com, part of the NewsgroupBanter project.
The comments are property of their posters.
Buy Anything On eBay - Cheap Flights - Credit Card - Car Insurance - Credit Card