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30-09-2003, 05:44 PM
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TN: value in a Viognier
Dale Williams wrote: In article , Mark Lipton writes: imported to the US by Robert Kacher) Overall, clear varietal character Not neccesarily phrases one always sees together.  Actually, that's not fair. Kacher's wines are I guess usually true to grape, though it can be hard to determine area. Well, to be fair to him, most of his portfolio that I've tried has been from the Rhone Valley. His selections there I find to be very high quality with good "typicity." YMMV, though. Thanks for the notes, one to look for. When I first discovered Viognier/Condrieu, I drank quite a bit. Now it's something I look for maybe once every 3 months. But it's nice to see a good one under $15! Funny, isn't it? I began my "ABC" phase with Viognier, but then got disaffected with it: too pricey and/or inconsistent. Now I drink far more SB and Pinot Gris than Viognier. Mark Lipton 
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30-09-2003, 07:23 PM
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TN: value in a Viognier
"Mark Lipton" wrote in message ... Funny, isn't it? I began my "ABC" phase with Viognier, but then got disaffected with it: too pricey and/or inconsistent. Now I drink far more SB and Pinot Gris than Viognier. Mark Lipton Greetings Mark; Some things don't change anywhere in the world. Viognier lovers suffer the same abuse here in the Niagara area; the wine is either thin and lacks the varietal flavours one hankers for or it has it all and is priced in the stratosphere. I guess the same can be said for virtually all wines. -- Regards Chuck So much wine; So little time! To reply, delete NOSPAM from return address
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30-09-2003, 08:23 PM
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TN: value in a Viognier
In article , Mark Lipton
writes: Well, to be fair to him, most of his portfolio that I've tried has been from the Rhone Valley. His selections there I find to be very high quality with good "typicity." YMMV, though. The only Kacher Rhone I'm familiar with is the Santa Duc Gigondas, which is usually tasty in a oaky/forward way. My semi-snideness I think probably comes from some of the Kacher Burgundies. Where some of the producers have changed their wines to meet his unfined/unfilltered/heavy new oak preferences. Funny, isn't it? I began my "ABC" phase with Viognier, but then got disaffected with it: too pricey and/or inconsistent. Now I drink far more SB and Pinot Gris than Viognier. Sounds a lot like me. Thought by ABC phase could never get me to give up on Chablis Best, Dale Dale Williams Drop "damnspam" to reply
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