It came as a shock when I read the news about Comcast.net will drop all
newsgroups after Oct 25.
Where is everyone on Comcast going to chat about food and wine. I will
miss all of you guys and gals.
Cheers,
Rick

On Oct 2, 4:00*pm, "Rick" wrote:
It came as a shock when I read the news about Comcast.net will drop all
newsgroups after Oct 25.
Where is everyone on Comcast *going to chat about food and wine. I will
miss all of you guys and gals.

Google carries Usenet groups. Select Groups on the Google home page
from the More dropdown. You can then go to alt.food.wine and read the
posts. If you want to post yourself, it is very easy to do so at
Google Groups also. It requires litle more than a working email
address to sign up to post. If you want a lot of extra features that
Google does not have, you can sign up for a newsgroup reader, often at
a small fee.

Many isps dropped Usenet groups long ago. Reasons given by them are
the spam Usenet attracts resulting in much greater junk email over
their email services and the many complaints to the isp about Usenet
posts for which the isp can do little, etc.

On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 14:00:57 -0700, "Rick"
wrote:

It came as a shock when I read the news about Comcast.net will drop all
newsgroups after Oct 25.
Where is everyone on Comcast going to chat about food and wine. I will
miss all of you guys and gals.


There are lots of other news servers available--some for a fee, some
free. Because Comcast, which I used to use, is dropping their news
servers, I switched to the free news server Motzarella a week or two
ago.

--
Ken Blake
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

Ken Blake wrote in
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On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 14:00:57 -0700, "Rick"
wrote:

It came as a shock when I read the news about Comcast.net will drop
all
newsgroups after Oct 25.
Where is everyone on Comcast going to chat about food and wine. I
will
miss all of you guys and gals.


There are lots of other news servers available--some for a fee, some
free. Because Comcast, which I used to use, is dropping their news
servers, I switched to the free news server Motzarella a week or two
ago.


Ack! I better start reading my Spam! Perhaps this isn't system wide, but
not a bad idea to move anyway.

--
Joseph Coulter, cruises and vacations
www.josephcoulter.com

877 832 2021
904 631 8863 cell

Joseph Coulter wrote:

Ack! I better start reading my Spam! Perhaps this isn't system wide, but
not a bad idea to move anyway.


It is systemwide, Joseph. And in addition to Motzarella and Datemas,
there's nntp.aioe.org, which is a very reliable free newsserver.

Mark Lipton


--
alt.food.wine FAQ: http://winefaq.cwdjr.net

I don't think they'll drop ALL newsgroups, probably just all the
binaries. I have SBC and they did this to us about 2 months ago.
I guess it's a crack down on all the child porn out there.

On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 14:00:57 -0700, "Rick"
wrote:

It came as a shock when I read the news about Comcast.net will drop all
newsgroups after Oct 25.
Where is everyone on Comcast going to chat about food and wine. I will
miss all of you guys and gals.
Cheers,
Rick

On Oct 3, 9:42�am, Tom wrote:
I don't think they'll drop ALL newsgroups, probably just all the
binaries. I have SBC and they did this to us about 2 months ago.
I guess it's a crack down on all the child porn out there.

On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 14:00:57 -0700, "Rick"
wrote:



It came as a shock when I read the news about Comcast.net will drop all
newsgroups after Oct 25.
Where is everyone on Comcast �going to chat about food and wine. I will
miss all of you guys and gals.
Cheers,
Rick- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I know Verizon is dropping entire alt hierarchy. I have Verizon at
home, but use Google Groups and Motzarella for continuity with office.

On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 09:42:06 -0400, Tom wrote:

I don't think they'll drop ALL newsgroups, probably just all the
binaries.


No, that's not correct. It's *all* newsgroups. Here's a quotation from
a message I got from them yesterday:

Dear Comcast High-Speed Internet Customer:

As of October 25, 2008, the complimentary Comcast Newsgroups service,
powered by Giganews, will be discontinued. This feature provided
customers access to 2 gigabytes of newsgroup information on a monthly
basis. After this date, these customers will no longer be able to
access the Comcast Newsgroups service through Comcast. Customers who
have subscribed directly to Giganews for newsgroup access will not be
affected by this change.


I have SBC and they did this to us about 2 months ago.
I guess it's a crack down on all the child porn out there.

On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 14:00:57 -0700, "Rick"
wrote:

It came as a shock when I read the news about Comcast.net will drop all
newsgroups after Oct 25.
Where is everyone on Comcast going to chat about food and wine. I will
miss all of you guys and gals.
Cheers,
Rick

--
Ken Blake
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

On Oct 2, 4:28*pm, cwdjrxyz wrote:
On Oct 2, 4:00*pm, "Rick" wrote:

Google carries Usenet groups. Select Groups on the Google home page
from the More dropdown. You can then go to alt.food.wine and read the
posts. If you want to post yourself, it is very easy to do so at
Google Groups also. It requires litle more than a working email
address to sign up to post. If you want a lot of extra features that
Google does not have, you can sign up for a newsgroup reader, often at
a small fee.

You might want to bookmark http://groups.google.com/group/alt.food.wine/topics
which is the direct link to alt.food.wine in Google groups. This
direct link is also given in the faqs. You will still have to sign up
if you wish to post there, but you can read the posts of alt.food.wine
without any additional input. Even if you have the group from an isp
or a newsreader, it is nice to have a secondary link at Google,
because some post will now and then show at one place and not the
other.

Man that sucks!! What the hell for? Can't they filter?

On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 10:31:36 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 09:42:06 -0400, Tom wrote:

I don't think they'll drop ALL newsgroups, probably just all the
binaries.


No, that's not correct. It's *all* newsgroups. Here's a quotation from
a message I got from them yesterday:

Dear Comcast High-Speed Internet Customer:

As of October 25, 2008, the complimentary Comcast Newsgroups service,
powered by Giganews, will be discontinued. This feature provided
customers access to 2 gigabytes of newsgroup information on a monthly
basis. After this date, these customers will no longer be able to
access the Comcast Newsgroups service through Comcast. Customers who
have subscribed directly to Giganews for newsgroup access will not be
affected by this change.


I have SBC and they did this to us about 2 months ago.
I guess it's a crack down on all the child porn out there.

On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 14:00:57 -0700, "Rick"
wrote:

It came as a shock when I read the news about Comcast.net will drop all
newsgroups after Oct 25.
Where is everyone on Comcast going to chat about food and wine. I will
miss all of you guys and gals.
Cheers,
Rick

On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 15:15:19 -0400, Tom wrote:

Man that sucks!! What the hell for?


I assume that they've decided it's to their economic advantage to
abandon newsgroups entirely. If you disagree, let them know and
threaten to change their service to that of another ISP.

Personally, it made no difference to me. I switched from Comcast's
news server to the free news server from Motzarella a couple of weeks
ago. As far as I'm concerned, Motzarella is fine, and there's been no
disadvantage.





Can't they filter?

On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 10:31:36 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 09:42:06 -0400, Tom wrote:

I don't think they'll drop ALL newsgroups, probably just all the
binaries.


No, that's not correct. It's *all* newsgroups. Here's a quotation from
a message I got from them yesterday:

Dear Comcast High-Speed Internet Customer:

As of October 25, 2008, the complimentary Comcast Newsgroups service,
powered by Giganews, will be discontinued. This feature provided
customers access to 2 gigabytes of newsgroup information on a monthly
basis. After this date, these customers will no longer be able to
access the Comcast Newsgroups service through Comcast. Customers who
have subscribed directly to Giganews for newsgroup access will not be
affected by this change.


I have SBC and they did this to us about 2 months ago.
I guess it's a crack down on all the child porn out there.

On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 14:00:57 -0700, "Rick"
wrote:

It came as a shock when I read the news about Comcast.net will drop all
newsgroups after Oct 25.
Where is everyone on Comcast going to chat about food and wine. I will
miss all of you guys and gals.
Cheers,
Rick

--
Ken Blake
Please Reply to the Newsgroup

"Ken Blake" wrote in message
news
On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 15:15:19 -0400, Tom wrote:

Man that sucks!! What the hell for?


I assume that they've decided it's to their economic advantage to
abandon newsgroups entirely. If you disagree, let them know and
threaten to change their service to that of another ISP.

Personally, it made no difference to me. I switched from Comcast's
news server to the free news server from Motzarella a couple of weeks
ago. As far as I'm concerned, Motzarella is fine, and there's been no
disadvantage.



The activist Attorney General of the State of New York (People's Republic??)
pressured a number of the national carriers to drop USENET completely -
because of a small number of offensive newsgroups. It was covered in the
news a few months ago

Now, why they listened to the idiot - I dunno..

Jim

Tom wrote:
Man that sucks!! What the hell for? Can't they filter?

Of course they can, but they see no reason to bother. The vast majority
of ISP customers have no idea that newsgroups exist, the complaints
brought against them for DMCA violations, trolling etc. are
disproprotionately large, and ISPs see no benefit to themselves for
carrying newsgroups. I imagine that in a few years no big ISP will
carry newsgroups as a default option.

Mark Lipton

--
alt.food.wine FAQ: http://winefaq.cwdjr.net

I use the newsserver run by these guys: http://www.individual.net/

I started when it was free, because they provided a more more reliable
service than my ISP. Now they charge a very small annual fee which I
pay with pleasure - I can honestly say I cannot remember ever having
had any problems with them.

--
Steve Slatcher
http://pobox.com/~steve.slatcher

Steve Slatcher wrote:
I use the newsserver run by these guys: http://www.individual.net/

I started when it was free, because they provided a more more reliable
service than my ISP. Now they charge a very small annual fee which I
pay with pleasure - I can honestly say I cannot remember ever having
had any problems with them.


Yes, a very good server. I use them also. The fee is very
worth the service.

They are quite good at spam filtering, often the only time I
see spam is when someone quotes it.

They don't provide access to binary ngs, but these are not of
interest to me personally.

-E