I work three days in the house. On these days (and on weekends) I have a
glass of wine with lunch. Two days a week I work at client sites and never
have a glass of wine with lunch, even when lunching alone. Anyone drink wine
on the job?

Evan

Seems like such a cultural issue. Here in the US, it is definitely
frowned on. But when I was working in France and Switzerland, it was
common to have some wine with lunch.

I work at home a lot, and do nnot drink wine with lunch. Not so much
because of prohibition against it, but prefer to savor my wine with my
evening meal.


On 2008-02-14 15:53:15 -0800, "Evan Keel" said:

I work three days in the house. On these days (and on weekends) I have a
glass of wine with lunch. Two days a week I work at client sites and never
have a glass of wine with lunch, even when lunching alone. Anyone drink wine
on the job?

Evan

Evan Keel wrote:
I work three days in the house. On these days (and on weekends) I have a
glass of wine with lunch. Two days a week I work at client sites and never
have a glass of wine with lunch, even when lunching alone. Anyone drink wine
on the job?

I find it not very pleasant to drink alcohol at lunch, as it makes me
rather lethargic in the afternoon or may even give me a headache (which
is one of the very few ways I get one). When I'm working late nights in
the office, I'll occasionally go out or home for dinner, have wine with
dinner and then come back in, but this is only since I've left the lab
and work a full time desk job.

Mark Lipton

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Evan Keel wrote:
I work three days in the house. On these days (and on weekends) I have
a
glass of wine with lunch. Two days a week I work at client sites and
never
have a glass of wine with lunch, even when lunching alone. Anyone drink
wine
on the job?

I find it not very pleasant to drink alcohol at lunch, as it makes me
rather lethargic in the afternoon or may even give me a headache (which
is one of the very few ways I get one). When I'm working late nights in
the office, I'll occasionally go out or home for dinner, have wine with
dinner and then come back in, but this is only since I've left the lab
and work a full time desk job.

Mark Lipton

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alt.food.wine FAQ: http://winefaq.hostexcellence.com

I like one glass. Example: Prosecco with a ham sandwich. A cheap
Zinfandel( CK Mondavi) with some leftover ragu.. But two glasses, I am
nodding out at my computer at 2 PM. That is why I don't do the 2nd glass.

Evan

On Feb 14, 7:53�pm, "Evan Keel" wrote:
I work three days in the house. On these days (and on weekends) �I have a
glass of wine with lunch. �Two days a week I work at client sites and never
have a glass of wine with lunch, even when lunching alone. Anyone drink wine
on the job?

Evan

These days I amost never have alcohol during the day. But for several
years I had a weekly lunch with a close friend, we'd have a pint of
beer, maybe 2. But I never felt it was an issue- I never got anywhere
near the point where I was intoxicated (I'm a big guy, 220 lbs, and
this would be 2 pints over an hour+ lunch). I think the important
thing is if someone's judgement was impaired or their productivity
suffered, not whether one had a glass of wine. I don't actually
remember the last time I had a drink at lunch on a workday, but don't
see it as an issue unless it affects work.

"DaleW" wrote in message
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On Feb 14, 7:53?pm, "Evan Keel" wrote:
I work three days in the house. On these days (and on weekends) ?I have a
glass of wine with lunch. ?Two days a week I work at client sites and
never
have a glass of wine with lunch, even when lunching alone. Anyone drink
wine
on the job?

Evan

I'm retired so I can drink any time, but do not drink during the day, except
after a round of golf. When I was working we never drank at lunchtime, the
patients would not have liked beery breath while checking their fundi!!

JT

When I worked in finance we'd often take clients to lunch and order
wine.

Now that I'm a working comedian I never, ever have anything to drink
before performing. Not even a glass with lunch several hours before a
show.

Shaun Eli
www.BrainChampagne.com
Brain Champagne: Clever Comedy for Smart Minds (sm)

My wife attended classes at the University of Minnesota back in the
60s, and worked at a local company called Dayton's (now Target) in
the evenings. Employees and managers would take a dinner break at a
nearby restaurant. One night a waitress asked one of the managers
if he would like a cocktail before dinner and he replied that he
had to get back to work and he didn't want to be seen drinking.
The waitress replied "I can serve the cocktail in a coffee cup
like I do for everyone else".
Dick R.

On Feb 14, 6:53�pm, "Evan Keel" wrote:
I work three days in the house. On these days (and on weekends) �I have a
glass of wine with lunch. �Two days a week I work at client sites and never
have a glass of wine with lunch, even when lunching alone. Anyone drink wine
on the job?

Evan

I never found that drinking at lunch worked very well in the corporate
world. We used to call it "the lions and the lambs" since some folks
would return in a very aggressive mood and others would become
lethargic and passive. In the end nobody did a very good job after
lunch and in a company of 2500 it could be problematic not to mention
the liability aspects so 30 years ago i banned alcohol at lunch and
although I retired a few years ago the corporate structure still
maintains the practice. Personally now that I'm retired from the
corporate world I do have a glass of wine or beer at lunch especially
when I'm conducting business onn behalf of the wine distributorship.
I generally spit at tastings but swallow at social lunches. FWIW, I
did have to deal with a number of problem drinkers/alcoholics in the
workforce so eliminating alcohol was an easy decision on my part and I
would still maintain an alcohol free workplace in a corporate
environment if for no other reason than to maintain a fair and
consistant policy towards alcoholism/drug abuse.

On Feb 14, 5:53 pm, "Evan Keel" wrote:
I work three days in the house. On these days (and on weekends) I have a
glass of wine with lunch. Two days a week I work at client sites and never
have a glass of wine with lunch, even when lunching alone. Anyone drink wine
on the job?


In the 1960's and 70's a 3-Martini lunch was not uncommon among some
working at large companies in larger cities in the US. However such is
now not tolerated by most large companies unless one is taking an
important client out to lunch and the client would not feel
comfortable if drinks were ordered for him or her, but not the host.
In fact many of the major companies in the US now have random drug
testing including for alcohol, and alcohol is not tolerated during
work. One of the large petroleum companies with some offices where I
live now has a zero tolerence policy. If the random drug tests come up
positive and are confirmed by more exact tests and a medical
prescription can not be presented, then the employee is fired on the
spot. Earlier they had one chance to overcome their problem.

Drug tests are not equally sensitive for different drugs. Alcohol and
cocaine can not be detected after a fairly short time. On the other
extreme cannabis products are fat soluble and are very slowly
released. Their use can be detected many days or even weeks after last
use with the usual screening tests, even though the person may show no
symptoms of use at the time of the test. I once talked to an airlines
supervisor who had to set up a drug testing program for airline
employees. I joked to him that they did not include LSD, and I would
least like to be on a plane with a pilot under the influence of LSD.
He replied that LSD is very difficult to test for, and that it soon
leaves the system. He joked back that there was no need to test pilots
for LSD, because those using it would report too many UFO
sightings :-).

On 2008-02-14 15:53:15 -0800, "Evan Keel" said:

I work three days in the house. On these days (and on weekends) I have a
glass of wine with lunch. Two days a week I work at client sites and never
have a glass of wine with lunch, even when lunching alone. Anyone drink wine
on the job?

Evan

When I started work in the late '60s in the international division of a
huge bank, it aslo was de rigeur to drink with clients at lunch, and
for some, to keep some semblance of "keeping up" (there were a few I
remember I could not keep up with if I wanted to!) It was bank policy
that if you felt like it after such a lunch, you could just not return.
In fact it was preferred, and not frowned upon.

"Ronin" wrote in message
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On 2008-02-14 15:53:15 -0800, "Evan Keel" said:

I work three days in the house. On these days (and on weekends) I have a
glass of wine with lunch. Two days a week I work at client sites and
never
have a glass of wine with lunch, even when lunching alone. Anyone drink
wine
on the job?

Evan

When I started work in the late '60s in the international division of a
huge bank, it aslo was de rigeur to drink with clients at lunch, and for
some, to keep some semblance of "keeping up" (there were a few I remember
I could not keep up with if I wanted to!) It was bank policy that if you
felt like it after such a lunch, you could just not return. In fact it was
preferred, and not frowned upon.


In the mid 80s, we always contacted one person in a major oil co. in the
morning. After an umpteen martini lunch, he was ill-tempered and
irrational.
Things have changed now. I had to sign a 'no-intoxicant' clause in my
current contract with another major oil co.
Graham

graham wrote:
"Ronin" wrote in message
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Evan
When I started work in the late '60s in the international division of a
huge bank, it aslo was de rigeur to drink with clients at lunch, and for
some, to keep some semblance of "keeping up" (there were a few I remember
I could not keep up with if I wanted to!) It was bank policy that if you
felt like it after such a lunch, you could just not return. In fact it was
preferred, and not frowned upon.


In the mid 80s, we always contacted one person in a major oil co. in the
morning. After an umpteen martini lunch, he was ill-tempered and
irrational.
Things have changed now. I had to sign a 'no-intoxicant' clause in my
current contract with another major oil co.

Interesting. A more "enlightened" policy might be to vet all potential
hires as "happy drunks" and reject those who turn up as "angry drunks"
or "morose drunks." I think that pretty much covers the taxonomy of
intoxication, though I'm always open to learning more about this
understudied field. ;-)

Mark Lipton


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"Mark Lipton" wrote in message
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graham wrote:
"Ronin" wrote in message
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Evan
When I started work in the late '60s in the international division of a
huge bank, it aslo was de rigeur to drink with clients at lunch, and for
some, to keep some semblance of "keeping up" (there were a few I
remember I could not keep up with if I wanted to!) It was bank policy
that if you felt like it after such a lunch, you could just not return.
In fact it was preferred, and not frowned upon.


In the mid 80s, we always contacted one person in a major oil co. in the
morning. After an umpteen martini lunch, he was ill-tempered and
irrational.
Things have changed now. I had to sign a 'no-intoxicant' clause in my
current contract with another major oil co.

Interesting. A more "enlightened" policy might be to vet all potential
hires as "happy drunks" and reject those who turn up as "angry drunks" or
"morose drunks." I think that pretty much covers the taxonomy of
intoxication, though I'm always open to learning more about this
understudied field. ;-)

My ex-F-I-L, while on a long stop-over, observed a man going through all
those stages. There seemed to be a definite order - perhaps Happy to Angry
to Morose etc. I have never seen it as I have usually been drinking as
well{;-)
Graham

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I work three days in the house. On these days (and on weekends) I have a
glass of wine with lunch. Two days a week I work at client sites and never
have a glass of wine with lunch, even when lunching alone. Anyone drink wine
on the job?

Evan

My office is in my home and I do not pour any wine, until after 5:00PM local,
except on weekends and holidays. Just my call on this.

Hunt